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Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: Theophilus] #192958
09/11/20 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Theophilus
They have to make sure it is safe. You don't just throw something out there, and see if it sticks.
This might be going to children.

I'm not taking the vaccine until it is proven relatively safe.


They were getting pressure to have it first by the new year and then by the election. And they were going to do it from my read of it, without any real concern for safety as they had immunity from any side effects. But now they are getting pushback, and all of a sudden they are concerned. Safety seems to be the first thing that was forgotten...

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193087
10/09/20 03:19 PM
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How will a country filled with elderly and unhealthy people react to covid-19 vaccines?

The article in the link above asks that question.
Remember, the disease itself is far less likely to make a person in good health, sick.
Only a very small percentage of the people who get the disease develop serious symptoms and die.
So if many healthy people have been developing serious side affects from the vaccines tested, what will happen to the millions of not that healthy people who take the vaccine?

This whole thing isn't about saving people's lives --
Yes, there is a serious disease out there
BUT
~Simple medications that have been shown to work if used properly are vigorously suppressed.
~Life styles that promote health, like -- getting out into the fresh air and sunshine, being active, are being made difficult.
~Sensible social life is made illegal (there are sensible measures of distancing from sick people and there are NOT sensible measures that make everyone afraid of everyone else)
~Increasing depression and isolation which is hugely disruptive to healthy function of the body. This has affected the elderly most of all, who were already the most vulnerable to disease.
~Huge economic crises in many people's lives as well as causing a huge amount of small businesses to permanently close. This has led to suicides and more depression in countless thousands.
~Actual needed medical help was hugely cut back (to supposedly make room for covid patients who, in most hospitals, never showed up) Why didn't they just close off, seal off, one wing of the hospitals to deal with covid, and continue offering medical help to the general population in the rest of the hospitals?
~Legislating face masks for everyone to limit good breathing. For those just putting them on to run into a store to get a few groceries it may not be a big deal, but think of those who need to work and wear those things for hours on end. Those face masks COLLECT germs where they multiply in the moisture of the breath, and then are continuous breathed in all day!
~And yet, doctors and nurses who are actually working with people infected with the virus are not given adequate protective gear.
~ Scores of medical personal have been laid off.
~Doctors (even those working where the disease is the worst) have had their pay cut.
~Then there's the whole issue of allowing and even encouraging protesting in the street, while hassling outdoor church meetings (even ones where every stayed in their cars)

Government and Big Pharma don't care about you or your health ?It?s always been about the money and control.

Yes, they are relaxing some restrictions now -- and tightening others.
So they have lowered the populations resistance to disease and NOW, very soon, comes vaccine? --- Starting with the elderly
With some in power urging that everyone be legislated to take it?


The world is on the brink of something big --

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193113
10/12/20 10:43 AM
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The second wave, gleefully predicted months ago by a smirking Bill Gates and echoed later by Trudeau and company, is due to hit soon. Ontario has begun another lockdown...


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Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."

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Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193118
10/13/20 09:58 AM
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I've heard some talking about they are in the third and 4th wave. How does one determine when one wave is over and another begins. Maybe it's determined by whether there's a personal advantage for promoting it. Like election time, vaccines ready to be released, economy recovering...

Or is it a second wave of government induced lockdowns.

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193122
10/14/20 03:14 PM
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The third wave is the third uptick in cases> Several charts here:



https://time.com/5893916/covid-19-coronavirus-third-wave/


I am not worthy of the least of all the mercies, and of all the truth, which Thou hast shewed unto Thy servant;...
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Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193123
10/15/20 10:01 AM
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With 90 some cases now in two separate zones in New Brunswick, the Chief Medical Officer there is saying that the Second Wave is upon them.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193124
10/16/20 02:09 PM
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Interesting article--
Advent Health Announces Groundbreaking Protocol

"In this pioneering research, AdventHealth Ocala has seen an unprecedented 96.4 percent success rate in patients who received only the ICAM protocol immediately after they were admitted"



ANOTHER INTERESTING REPORT
Great Barrington Declaration


More than 35,000 medical doctors and health scientists from around the world have signed a petition (?the Great Barrington Declaration?) against lockdowns put in place to curb the spread of COVID-19, saying the lockdowns are causing ?irreparable damage.?

The petition is co-authored by Dr. Martin Kulldorff (a Harvard professor and epidemiologist), Dr. Sunetra Gupta (an Oxford University professor and epidemiologist), and Dr. Jay Bhattacharya (a Stanford University Medical School professor and epidemiologist).

The petition states that ?current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short- and long-term public health.?

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: Theophilus] #193145
10/19/20 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Theophilus
The third wave is the third uptick in cases> Several charts here:



https://time.com/5893916/covid-19-coronavirus-third-wave/


So wave just means continuing of the first. Looks like about when masks were mandated.

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: ProdigalOne] #193147
10/19/20 02:13 PM
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The thing is -- testing is being done more and more.
Considering that 80 or more percent of those testing positive never develop the disease, what's that going to do with the "increased" cases reported?

And yes, that's when masks were mandated -- because so many people tested positive but never developed the disease, so that was taken as proof that a lot of people were contagious without knowing they had the disease.

Of course there are a few who get the disease and suffer badly, there is some truth or this state of affairs would never have taken root.
But the way things are going are far more scary than the disease itself.

The Great Barrington Declaration makes the best sense.

Yes, those most vulnerable should be very careful, no one wants the serious version of the disease.
But for the general population stop this lockdown militant stuff, and allow people to live normal lives, for it will build mob immunity better than any vaccine or hiding and lockdowns ever will.

Re: Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine? [Re: dedication] #193164
10/22/20 07:44 AM
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If I did this correctly, I think I created a POLL in relation to the question "Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine?"

Will You Take The Wuhan Virus Vaccine?
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