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TheGarlic #193025
09/24/20 04:36 PM
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Vaccine peddlers freely admit their vaccines have never prevented disease. That's why they're not even attempting to prevent covid-19 disease. Otherwise, they may let the cat out of the bag and their empire would crumble.

It appears that all the pharmaceutical companies assume that the vaccine will never prevent infection. Their criteria for approval is the difference in symptoms between an infected control group and an infected vaccine group. They do not measure the difference between infection and noninfection as a primary motivation.

If you die even after getting injected, the important thing is whether you died with fewer symptoms.

None list the prevention of death and hospitalization as a critically important barrier.


Infection, hospitalization, and death is not the purpose of vaccination.

Check it out yourself at https://www.forbes.com/sites/willia...ls-are-designed-to-succeed/#29dd762c5247

Re: TheGarlic [Re: kland] #193117
10/13/20 09:54 AM
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The rest of Europe is upset that Sweden's death infection and death rates aren't higher. It's not fair that they haven't trashed their economy and yet are better off than we are. So Sweden is considering adding restrictions so they can hope to increase the number of cases and be like the surrounding countries. In a lab test using samples from blood donors, (without their knowledge), it was determined that we don't really have a clue how the immune system works. Cecilia S?derberg-Naucl?r, who didn't work on the study, admits that what happens in a test tube doesn't really relate to real life. In other words, we haven't a clue what we're doing but that doesn't prevent other countries from making up laws on the fly.

Meanwhile, UK's Dr. Gabriel Scully, says that just because Sweden has lower infection and death rates without crashing their economy doesn't mean it's an effective strategy. there are some countries (not the UK) where they were better off than Sweden. And besides, Sweden had an unfair advantage.

https://www.cnn.ph/world/2020/9/29/sweden-coronavirus-response.html

Re: TheGarlic [Re: kland] #193192
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There's no need to actually test the vaccine.

Researchers in the UK are wasting time and risking lives with a human challenge trial, so says John LaMattina on Forbes. LaMattina was the president of Pfizer Global Research and Development and is a senior partner at PureTech Health. PureTech Health has relationships with several pharmacy companies.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnla...-19-virus-really-necessary/#4cc55d6a9add

Besides, the vaccines will be released way before the challenge trial proves whether they work, reports LaMattina.

What is odd is how did Moderna and Pfizer already know their vaccines required two doses before being actually tested in a challenge trial?

Re: TheGarlic [Re: kland] #193195
10/27/20 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kland
Vaccine peddlers freely admit their vaccines have never prevented disease.

A statement like that is akin to saying the world is flat.
Try education.


"Our vision is often more obstructed by what we think we know than by our lack of knowledge." K. Stendahl
Re: TheGarlic [Re: kland] #193196
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Nadi, what do you dispute from the link?

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10/28/20 02:17 PM
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kland, it is not the link I have an issue with. It's your asinine assertion that vaccines have never prevented disease. Its not enough that the WHO, CDC, Health Canada, and countless other entities are trying to help and protect humanity. No. Uneducated idiots like you and Green and a SMALL MINORITY of the worlds population have to make their job infinitely harder by spreading baseless falsehoods about the imagined dangers of vaccines.

How do you think humanity virtually eradicated small pox, measles, or polio? By taking Vitamin C? I think not.

These diseases are now making a come-back largely because of miss-information disseminated by fear-mongering conspiracy theorists.

Grow up and get an education.


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Re: TheGarlic [Re: kland] #193204
10/29/20 01:40 PM
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Nadi, the link was talking about the vaccine trials.

According to the Forbes article link, how were the trials to be considered successful?

Re: TheGarlic [Re: kland] #193208
10/30/20 09:44 PM
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The imagined dangers of vaccines?

Are Vaccines Safe?

Shocking chart --
The USA has the highest number of vaccines given to children under age one.
The USA has the highest infant mortality of children under age one.

Re: TheGarlic [Re: kland] #193210
10/31/20 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Nadi
How do you think humanity virtually eradicated small pox, measles, or polio? By taking Vitamin C? I think not.


Answer THAT question, Dedication.

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Re: TheGarlic [Re: kland] #193213
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Are you sure Small pox, measles and polio were eradicated?
Have you heard of "vaccine derived Polo"?
Also there is considerable evidence that Guillaine Barre Syndrome (GBS), a paralyzing disease very much like polio, increases considerably in cases, when polio vaccine campaigns are administered.


The role vaccines may or may not have played in the past, does not make the massive shooting of vaccines into tiny babies safe.
In some cases a vaccine may very well have helped. But that does not make all these vaccines safe.


The disaster of early Polo vaccines that CAUSED thousands of children to develop "vaccine derived Polo" which is just as dangerous as "wild Polo", should cause people to be highly suspicious of fast produced, little tested, highly pushed vaccine against Covid - 19.

The very fact that vaccine companies are exempt from any liability is another huge concern.

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