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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
[Re: Rick H]
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02/13/20 05:52 PM
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The clained historicist stefnaovic and paulien believe they are right BUT their Relevation decodor the trumpets are differentt! How can can that be?
Last edited by APL; 02/13/20 05:58 PM.
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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
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02/13/20 06:42 PM
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APL,
Why are your words jumbled at times???
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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
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02/14/20 02:22 AM
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APL,
Why are your words jumbled at times??? note to self, don' bleed into your brain making n\maying it hard to read!
Oh, that men might open their minds to know God as he is revealed in his Son! {ST, January 20, 1890}
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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
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02/26/20 11:01 AM
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I've seen this type of distorted writing by other posters in forums, curious....
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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
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02/28/20 02:31 AM
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I've wondered about the gabbled messages as well. It's not his normal posting. Maybe he's sending messages from a phone, trying to text with fingers that are bigger than those keys.
APL's question on historicists --
Historicism, as the method of interpretation of prophecy, sees the prophecy as covering history from the time of the prophet clear through to the end of the world.
Like Daniel seven --
Babylon, Media Persia. Greece. Rome, Rome divided, papacy,
The heavenly court is seated, books opened.
Time comes for the "saints" to inherit the earth with Christ.
Daniel, took us, step by step, through
Stefanovic, Maxwell, Smith, etc. may vary in their understanding of the seven trumpets.
However, they are still following the historicist's method, They still march through history seeing the "seventh" in each series as bringing us into the time of the end and Christ's coming.
A preterist doesn't take us through history from the prophet's time to the end. They have the prophecies ending in the first century.
Daniel 8 they focus on Antiochus Epiphanes as the central figure, and reject any thought of the cleansing work and judgment applying to our day, except as maybe an "example" like any other Bible story is an "example".
However, the historicist, sees the march of time from Media Persia, step by step to the cleansing taking place at the end of time.
The futurist takes all the prophecies out of their historic connection and places them all in the future-- thus allowing them to "play" and speculate as to their meaning.
In the historicist view there are still numerous future prophecies.
We haven't reached the end of these linear prophecies yet.
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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
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I've wondered about the gabbled messages as well. It's not his normal posting. Maybe he's sending messages from a phone, trying to text with fingers that are bigger than those keys. His post just before yours alludes to his having had a stroke. note to self, don' bleed into your brain making
n\maying it hard to read! As for the signs of Christ's coming, it would seem that, according to Jesus' words, we are now entering "the beginning of sorrows" (Matthew 24:8). Blessings, Green Cochoa.
We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
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03/05/20 03:20 AM
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The world definitely is entering into darkness.
The question that is most important -- Is our connection to the Savior secure? Are our lives hid in Christ?
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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
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03/30/20 12:48 AM
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How much do you know about US Attorney General Bill Barr? https://youtu.be/L9-FClBRbNo
"...I will not forget you.
Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
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I think what is happening is a wake-up call to a sleeping church.
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Re: The Signs & Events of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
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05/07/21 07:51 AM
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JMO, but the Dark Day of May 19, 1780, the meteorite shower of November 13, 1833, and the Lisbon earthquake of 1755 ARE NOT signs of the end. The most recent of these (1833) was 186 years ago.
This whole end-time scenario needs re-interpretation, including the "great papal persecution" which IS NOT "the great tribulation."
No, "signs of the end" means just that: when you see these signs, the end is here, imminent, immediately upon us, within days or weeks, or possibly as much as 3-4 months. Not 186-264 years. You have to grasp what it means a thousand years is like a day...
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