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Re: "Ordination" from strictly the Biblical perspective [Re: dedication] #172988
05/03/15 10:33 AM
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I would consider a pastor to be on the same level as a priest in these days. The Temple service doesn't exist on the earth today but those benefits have been transferred to the pastors , I believe.

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Re: "Ordination" from strictly the Biblical perspective [Re: Green Cochoa] #172989
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I know "headship" is a big deal in these discussions and I find a lot of pride in those who support WOPE in the way they treat this issue.

If we could just read 1 Corinthians 11:1-16, especially the early part, we read Jesus has a head. The Father is the head of Christ! Headship is a holy institution that shouldn't be trifled with.

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Re: "Ordination" from strictly the Biblical perspective [Re: Green Cochoa] #172997
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Headship is just one aspect of the body of Christ. The body consists of many parts. The head is not more important than the foot. And the foot is not more important than the head. Each part is equally important. Men and women are equally important. Children are equally important.

1 Corinthians 12

4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.

12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

14 For the body is not one member, but many.

15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body?

17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?

18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.

19 And if they were all one member, where were the body?

20 But now are they many members, yet but one body.

21 And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you.

22 Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary:

23 And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness.

24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked.

25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.

26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.

27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?

30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?

31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.

Re: "Ordination" from strictly the Biblical perspective [Re: dedication] #194136
06/10/21 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dedication
...

LOVE

The Greek
has four distinct words for love:
agape -- godly love,
éros -- passionate love
philía, -- friendship, affection
storgē -- tolerant love, or love of parent for child

...
That may work in a 'lexicon', but it doesn't work in the Bible (KJB, GNT TR).

Please take the Agape/Phileo test (and if you take it honestly, you will fail it):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OsSIGY6xj8



I have all the evidence, from scripture (KJB), to demonstrate what is presented in the video is truth (Watch the entire video, or if you want to jump straight to the test, go to time index: 00:47:52). Agape and Phileo are used interchangeably with no distinction in scripture, as are many other words for the same items (sheep, baskets, creation, etc), verbs (feed), emotions, etc.

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