I read from the infallible text of Rev. 19:20 that the beast and the false prophet were captured alive and thrown into the lake of fire with brimstone. It is NOT after 1000 years later. I am mindful of the context. There is a lake of fire at the second coming, as Apostle Peter also mentioned that every element would melt.

Thus, the first lake of fire will burn everything to ashes, including the beast and the false prophet alive at the second coming. They will have to suffer another time of the lake of fire, so they will resurrect again to receive the reward of the second death AFTER the millennium, according to Rev. 20:10.

The lake of fire always receives the prospects alive. Therefore, the beast and the false prophet die the first death at the second coming of Jesus; thus, Revelation has the concept of the first death aimed at them.

My understanding of the two feasts was a little more simple.
The feast for the birds meant simply they died and didn't have the honor of even a burial, they were left for the scavengers. Back then it was a great dishonor to be left for the scavengers.

The feast for the saved, I always understood it to be a grand wedding feast, Jesus celebrating with the redeemed. Jesus actually serving His redeemed welcoming them into His kingdom. A Great honor!

Now if you continue to follow strict sequence and ignore the cyclic rule of interpretation do you believe there are
several more burnings for the unbelievers?
I'm not saying that you do, just asking if you hold to that way of interpreting all the way through?

20:4 Redeemed in heaven for 1000 years
20:5 Dead remain dead for 1000 years
20:6 Those raised in first resurrection won't experience the 2nd death
20:7 Satan loosed at end of 1000 years
20:8 lost are raised, Satan goes among them to deceive them into forming a huge army.
20:9 This vast army encircles the city of God. FIRE comes down and devours them.
20:10 Satan is caste into the lake of Fire with the beast and false prophet.

OK - does John now go back to fill in more details, or does sequence continue in a straight line. If you believe John continues the narrative in a straight sequential line then it appears those countless rebels raised after the 1000 years who tried to attack the city and were devoured by fire, would have to be resurrected again, and burned again?. *That would make it three times if you believe they were also thrown into the lake of fire before the millennium.
Then theirs the verse about Satan, would you then say Satan and his followers are thrown into the lake of fire before the great white throne judgment and devoured by fire before that judgment? Satan isn't mentioned again, surely that doesn't mean Satan just suffers the lake of fire only once, while his followers have to suffer it three times?

20:11 The white throne judgment, books including the book of life are there
2o:12 The dead stand before the throne the books are opened and they are judged
20:13 The sea and death and hell all deliver the dead, and the dead are judged out of the book.
20:14 Death and hell cast into the lake of Fire.
20:15 Those whose name not in book of life cast into lake of Fire. This is the second death

21:1 New heaven and new earth
21:2 New Jerusalem comes down from heaven
21:3 God dwells with His people!
21:4 God wipes away all tears, no more death or sorrow
21.5 God says He will make all things new
21:6 God is the Alpha and Omega and gives of the water of life freely
21:7 The redeemed overcomers inherit all things
21:8 The murderers, fornicators, idolaters, liars (etc) will all have their part in the Lake of fire, which is the second death.

If we continue to put all this in absolute sequence, Do we then have another lake of fire after the new heaven and new earth ? 21:8 is in the context of the new earth, and in sequential position after all tears, death and sorrow are wiped away?

Surely you see that John describes things and refers back or forth to explain or add details.
To insist on sequential order causes all manner of confusion and strange interpretations.

It makes much more sense to see ---
There is only one lake of fire, which is the second death, and it's at the end of the 1000 years to cleanse the earth before the new earth is created. The vast throng of wicked are not raised twice, just once, their attempted attack on the city is interrupted by the white throne judgment and the fire that devours them and satan comes after the white throne judgment. John told us their sure end, letting us know they would not succeed in capturing the city, before telling us the white throne judgment happens first.

God doesn't torture people because they refuse to worship Him.
Wipe earth clean of all evil -- YES, He will do that. Make a final end of all sin, YES He does that!
But to see multiple burnings of the unbelievers here is buying into Catholic way of thinking, not Biblical theology. They'd probably just laugh at our argument, to affirm their belief that the eternal fire burns for ever and ever. After all the scriptures say "forever" doesn't it?
Seeing John's way of dealing with sequence in descripting events is important or we get a lot of things happening multiple times, or a completely wrong idea that God burns people forever.

IThose subjects to the feast of birds are hastening their destiny by participating in an ecumenism movement which are the three entities: the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet.

The beast and the false prophet are ordained for the punishment by smoke and brimstone at the second coming of Jesus (See Rev. 19:20). I see this punishment as the first death, but it is your freedom to think whatever.

The beast represents Catholicism.
The false prophet represents apostate Christianity.

The dragon represents pagan religion, primarily Buddhism.

The three unclean spirits are bound together in union, which Revelation calls a miracle phenomenon, to destroy God's people (See Rev. 16:13-14).
Buddhists are ordained to be punished with fire, lesser intensity than the punishment of smoke and brimstone, because they didn't know about the living God as much as Catholics and the false prophets.

Rev. 16:13-14 "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty."

The warning of the sixth trumpet is for these three entities, by "fire and smoke and brimstone (Rev. 9:17). These punishments are called "plagues" in the message of the sixth trumpet.

Rev. 9:17-20 "And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk."

When the sixth trumpet says the fire, smoke and brimstone are the plagues, I have no difficulty going to the seven plague sections to see who would deserve the precisely announced punishment. And the answer is recorded that the sentence is for the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet.

The earth will become a bottomless pit due to thundering, lightning, voices, great earthquakes, and hails when Jesus returns.

Rev. 16:18,21 "And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great." "And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great."


The seven trumpets warned of these coming plagues at the second coming: Rev. 8:5 "...and there were voices, and thunderings, and lightnings, and an earthquake." The ministration of Jesus Christ at the heavenly sanctuary is ceased as the symbol of ashes cast to the earth. Rev. 8:5 "And the angel took the censer, and filled it with fire of the altar, and cast it into the earth."

The golden vial was full of saints' prayers, and its smoke filled the heavenly sanctuary, but now it became the bowl of great seven last plagues upon the earth.

We find four times of lightning, voices, and thundering in Revelation:
1) In the throne room, the investigation judgment happens(Rev. 4:5).
2) At the time of casting ashes(Rev. 8:5).
3) By the ark of the covenant (Rev. 11:19).
4) At the second coming(Rev. 16:18-17).

Therefore, if the great earthquakes and hails of 100 pounds fall upon the earth, it will become the original condition of the bottomless pit with no sun lights and in total darkness.

What's interesting to know is that the four times of God's warning have a common factor: "voices."

When God manifested in mount Saini, Israelites were so afraid and pleaded to Moses that God would not speak to them directly.

Ex. 20:19 "And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but let not God speak with us, lest we die."

Nevertheless, God commands us to hear the voice that speaks from heaven. Heb. 12:25 "See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven."

Let us study cosmic shaking at the second coming.

Let us consider the fourth plague first in Revelation.
Rev. 16:8-9 "And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory."

The fourth plague of sun-scorching heat impacts humanity and only the earth, not other celestial bodies.

Did God warn of the coming of the fourth plague by the fourth trumpet? Isn't the warning means that God will shake the earth and the cosmic world altogether?
Rev. 8: 12 "And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; so as the third part of them was darkened, and the day shone not for a third part of it, and the night likewise."

Notice that the sun, the moon, and the stars are involved in the shaking. The signs are clear and plain and affect even the celestial bodies. In other words, God will shake the whole cosmic world at the second coming.

What is the primary purpose of shaking the cosmic world at the second coming of Jesus?

First of all, the earth must become the center of the universe for the throne of God is to come down. That said, God must rearrange the universe for its course of an orbit.

Rev. 22:3 "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him."

Bible says that there will be only one more time of shaking since mount Sinai, not an additional second time or more.

Heb. 12:27 "And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain."

Jesus Himself also spoke to us about the event which will shake the sun, the moon and the stars.

Matt. 24:29-30 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven"

Luke 21:26 "Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken."

The powers of heaven shake once more to rearrange the cosmic world at the return of Jesus Christ the second time.

The wicked will be ashes under the sole of our feet, and we will be like calves jumping with joy for the release from Satan's captivity. (Mal. 4:2-3)

EG White saw in her vision that the powers of heaven shook, and the earth's gravity changed. "The swords that were raised to kill God's people broke and fell as powerless as a straw." EW Ch. 69 p. 285
"As the wicked were mocking around them, suddenly the sun appeared, shining in his strength, and the moon stood still. The wicked looked upon the scene with amazement, while the saints beheld with solemn joy the tokens of their deliverance. Signs and wonders followed in quick succession. Everything seemed turned out of its natural course. The streams ceased to flow. Dark, heavy clouds came up and clashed against each other. But there was one clear place of settled glory, whence came the voice of God like many waters, shaking the heavens and the earth. There was a mighty earthquake. The graves were opened, and those who had died in faith under the third angel's message, keeping the Sabbath, came forth from their dusty beds, glorified, to hear the covenant of peace that God was to make with those who had kept His law." EW Ch. 69 p. 285

The overview of Revelation is straightforward and plain.

Chapter 1 is an introduction to the whole prophecy book of Revelation. We call it a prologue. Its counterpart is Chapter 22 as an epilogue, which means the introduction's conclusion.

The Seven Churches, chapters 2 and 3, receive a fantastic message from God. Jesus is on the throne, and His churches are the most regarded by Him.

The investigative judgment is in progress in Chapters 4 and 5 to seal believers. The foundation of the throne room is judgment and righteousness. Therefore, we see the heavenly courts are open for that cause.

In Chapters 6 and 7, the sealing work progresses and culminates with the final sealing of Sabbath truth. This historical account of Christianity unfolded last two thousand years since Jesus ascended to heaven.

The seven trumpets have the most extended volume in Revelation from Chapters 8 to 11. Just as the fourth commandment of God's law takes the top word count to emphasize the importance, the seven trumpets section has a pervasive warning message to the wicked.

God reveals Satan's secrets in the middle of the book of Revelation, Chapters 12, 13, and 14. God fully unmasks Satan's identity so humanity can decide which side to choose before the wrath of God pours out in the seven last plagues.

Chapters 15 and 16 of the seven plagues are already on the move; pestilences, pollution of waters, climate changes, spiritual darknesses, rejection of the Sabbath truth, and the ecumenism of religions.

The last call, "My people, come out," is in Chapters 17 and 18.

The description of the event in Chapter 19 is the second coming of Jesus, in which the sandwich events are the bride and the birds' feast.

Reviewing the investigative judgment happens during the thousand years, as introduced in Chapter 20.

In Chapters 21 and 22, the cosmic governing center, New Jerusalem, comes down from heaven to the earth.

Only those who are sealed can genuinely proclaim the final warning of the Seven Trumpets message. Satan hates that God's people would come to understand the true meaning of it. And he endeavored to misconstrue the truth of the Seven Trumpets as the judgment upon the nations that oppose and persecutes Christianity.

Only when God's people grasp what is not can they proclaim the valid message loud and clear as the trumpet's sound. The seven trumpets' message is not historical events but the warning of the Day of the Lord approaching; that is the true and solemn message. Then, the mystery of God will finish.

Rev. 10:7 "But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets."

Instead of a preconceived idea that the seven trumpets are a sequential historical event over the Christian era- if we realize that "seven" means perfection and completion-the message's totality is "watch out!" the probation is about to close.

God did not make it as hard of a prophecy to understand. 1 Cor. 14:8 "For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?"

The Seven Trumpets are a crystal clear message that Our High Priest will imminently cease His ministration in the heavenly sanctuary. When Jesus declares, "It is done," there is no longer an intercessor for the sinners.

One thing I agree -- this is a serious subject with eternal meaning, and we need the seal of God, and the sealing power of the Holy Spirit. The urgency to be right with the Lord NOW, Today, while the Holy Spirit is still calling, is the day of salvation, we can't count on tomorrow.

But I very much disagree with putting all the trumpets in the future, and denying the role they have played throughout Christian history.

Rev 10:7 In the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God shall be finished.


Note "in the days of the 7th angel when he shall begin to sound" -- that's when the final events take place. When it's finished sounding, that's when it's all over here. Yes, seven is a number of completion.

But the first six trumpets have been warning generations after generations throughout the Christian era.
For every generation must stand before the judgment seat of Christ (Romans 14:10, 2 Cor. 5:10)

Also the plagues are directed, not so much against nations that have never professed to know and follow Christ. Those plagues are directed against those who have taken the cloak of being God's representatives, counterfeiting the God's truth with falsehood, deceiving people, and using force to make the people accept the counterfeits. People and nations that are joined to them, or end up joining them, also suffer the plagues.


The other six trumpets have already warned us about this:
Like first -- the Jewish thought leaders, claiming to serve God, while rejecting Christ, Emmanuel, God with us, and persecuting those who did receive Jesus as their Lord and Savior. Those supposed leaders claiming to represent God -- Jesus told them they had given themselves over to do Satan's bidding! (John 8:41-44) Their house would be desolate (Matt. 23:38) They suffered the first trumpet , the result of their deceptive role as leaders, leading their nation to reject the only One Who could save them.
"The Saviour's prophecy concerning the visitation of judgments upon Jerusalem is to have another fulfillment, of which that terrible desolation was but a faint shadow." GC 37
That was a warning trumpet!

The second -- Roman Empire making Christianity their state religion (mainly as a government unifying thing, not a life changing relationship with Christ) enforcing their version of Christianity on all while denying the power of the Savior. There was corruption every bit as bad and worse taking place after Christianity was decreed and enforced upon the Empire, as before Christianity became its state religion. The trumpet sounded for them, as mobs of barbarians wrecked their Empire.

The rest of the trumpets' warnings
Papal Rome -- polluted the living water of the gospel with false doctrines, traditions and pagan renovations, while taking upon themselves the prerogatives of God over the souls of the people, and persecuting those who sought the pure streams.

Armies were unleashed against fallen Christianity, for fallen Christianity persecuted true believers, and enforced their version of Christianity upon the people.

It's this deceptive religions/political power that claims to be the representative of the Savior, but are actually following a demonic guide (yes, they have dedicated the world to "Mary", who is no relation to the Mary of the Bible).

Yes, Satan is also filling the world with evil, unrest, strife, but in the end -- Christianity will make it's big backlash against all the corruption now taking place and set up a world religion under the papal head, in which catholics, protestants AND pagan religions unite hands, and enforce the papal mandates (which includes trampling on the true Sabbath and setting up and enforcing the counterfeit Sabbath. Using civil power and military power (Europe - ten horns) and (two horned beast - America) the religious entities take hold of the power of the governments -- the time of trouble will be here. Everything right now is preparing for this. Dissenters will be persecuted.
That's when the plagues will fall, and the end will come quickly.

We've received all the warnings! Burying history, is burying the warnings.
The three angel's message, combined with the fourth angel of Rev. 18 is the last urgent call. Most will be deceived thinking the coming swing to the right is a good thing. Will we recognize the deception?
Or are we so busy putting all the prophecies into the future we won't see the real problem as the great deception descends upon the world?