Let not our young men be deterred from entering the ministry. There is danger that through glowing representations some will be drawn away from the path where God bids them walk. Some have been encouraged to take a course of study in medical lines who ought to be preparing themselves to enter the ministry. The Lord calls for more ministers to labor in His vineyard. The words were spoken, ?Strengthen the outposts; have faithful sentinels in every part of the world.? God calls for you, young men. He calls for whole armies of young men who are large-hearted and large-minded, and who have a deep love for Christ and the truth. The measure of capacity or learning is of far less consequence than is the spirit with which you engage in the work. It is not great and learned men that the ministry needs; it is not eloquent sermonizers. God calls for men who will give themselves to Him to be imbued with His Spirit. The cause of Christ and humanity demands sanctified, self-sacrificing men, those who can go forth without the camp, bearing the reproach. Let them be strong, valiant men, fit for worthy enterprises, and let them make a covenant with God by sacrifice. Gospel Workers page 63

Ellen White tried to show a better way suggesting other spiritual leaders, like deaconess should be ordained, but that all fell by the wayside.

That is actually in the Church Manual, however, I have yet to see deaconesses being ordained in our local church.

Tit 1:5? For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and
ordain ( kath-is'-tay-mee from G2596 and G2476; to place down, to designate, constitute, convoy, to appoint, to make, ordain, set up ).elders in every city,
as I had appointed diatasso #1299 appointed, commanded, give order, ordained)thee:

Tit 1:6? If any be blameless, the husband of one wife,(not a polygamists, this doesn't mean they must have a wife, but that they must not be a polygamist) having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. (that doesn't mean they have to have children, but when they do have children they must show good upbringing)


So Titus was to be sure all the churches appointed leaders.
The translators used the word "ordain" elders, in this verse, but the word Kathistaymee is rarely translated as "ordain",
It's usually translated as "make,
as we see in Acts 7:10
And delivered him out of all his afflictions, and gave him favour and wisdom in the sight of Pharaoh king of Egypt; and he made G2525 him kathistooymee governor over Egypt and all his house.

The same word kathistaymee is translated as "appoint"
in Acts 6:3
Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint G2525 over this business

Paul uses the word kathistaymee three times in Romans 5:19 in which it simply means "made".
For as by one man's disobedience many were made G2525 sinners, so by the obedience of one shall G2525 ➔ many be made G2525 righteous.


The word "diatasso #1299 was also used in the first verse sited -- Titus 1:5. where Paul writes to Titus "as I have appointed you".

Diatasso #1299 is also translated as "ordain" in other texts.

So Titus 1:5 could be translated " ordain elders as I have ordained you." Or
"appoint elders as I have appointed you".


But look at this verse:
1 Cor.7:17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain diatasso G1299 I in all churches.

Though Paul uses the the word diatasso#1299, which could have been translated as "command" or appoint, that verse may be coming the closest as to what "ordaining" is all about.


Paul speaks several times that ALL workers are equally important, we are one body with Christ the head, and all members with their individual gifts are equally important. Thus yes, it seems all should be "ordained" blessed and made to understand they are "called by God" to fulfill their gifts for the glory of God. Not all ordained to the same gift, for not all are called to be apostles or teachers etc. but each ordained to a ministry in which they use their gift.
Ep 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry,
Some the gift of hospitality, some the gift of healing, etc.

Not all receive the same gift or mission.
But all are equally important.

as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain G1299 I in all churches. 1 Cor. 7:17

Actually both words here discussed -- diatasso and kathistaymee don't really mean "ordained" in the way we see it today. But rather in the sense of appointed, being designated, made, even commanded.

To understand what we now call "ordination" we may have to do a research on what "laying on of hands" in spiritual sense, is all about.\

1.
make (someone) a priest or minister; confer holy orders on.
"he was ordained a minister before entering Parliament"

1
a
: to fix or set officially
appoint a trial date
b
: to name officially
will appoint her director of the program

Knocks what props out of what objections???? What are you referring to????

The dictionary definition is man's definition, but is it the Biblical definition?

As explained in my previous post, the Greek words:

Diatasso #1299 is to command, set up, [b]appoint[.b]
kath-is'-tay-mee from G2596 and G2476; is to put in place , to designate, constitute, convoy, to appoint, to make, set up

Both of those Greek words in scripture were translated as "ordain" a couple times in the King James Bible, but they occur many more times in the Bible where they are given the other translations,

The word "ordain" as such has no "one Greek word" to correspond to it.

The PRACTICE of ordaining is usually done with the "laying on of hands".
I've seen many ordination services in which the gentlemen kneel on the platform and a group of others surround them placing their hands on heads and shoulders of the initiates.
The PRACTICE of ordaining is considerably different than just setting up, designating , appointing.

Sabbath school superintendents are designated and appointed and officially set up by vote of the church, but they are not "ordained" in the meaning given by the church to ordination. They are just appointed, to do the job.
Bible workers are appointed, set up, officially voted by the church, even paid by the church, yet not ordained.
So if ordination really means "appointed to a position and officially set up" why aren't they ordained?

Obviously those dictionary definitions aren't what we think ordination means.

As suggested == maybe a little research on "laying on of hands" would be closer in finding the biblical meaning of the practice of ordination.

No one said the English language dictionary can't be used. I'm surprised how you swing into extreme's without addressing content. Of course the English dictionary attempts to show the meaning of words.

But there are two problems:
1. The Bible wasn't written in English
2. The translators' own ideas can influence which word(s) they use to translate the text into English.

There is no specific word for "ordain" in the Bible.
The two Greek words which on about 3 occasions were translated as "ordain" are:

Diatasso #1299 which means --- to command, set up, [b]appoint[.b]
and
kath-is'-tay-mee which means -- to put in place , to designate, to appoint, constitute, convoy, to make, set up

The translators decided to use the word "ordain" in translating the Greek word kathistaymee. That Greek word means -- to appoint, to designate, to make official.

It's an honest question, why didn't the translators simply follow the usual pattern and usual meaning of the word and write --

1:5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and designate elders in every city, as I had appointed thee:

That's all the verse actually says -- Titus was to choose elders for all the churches in every city.


Now the English dictionary will give the meaning to words that PEOPLE have given to them.
So, while it included all the more general (designate, appoint, set up, make official) definitions, it also gives a very distinct meaning, the definition to "confer holy orders on".

Where does the concept of "conferring holy orders" come from?
The dictionary is just sharing what a popular thought is when the word "ordained" comes up.

The "conferring holy orders" is a very Catholic phrase.

Through the sacrament of holy orders, or ordination, a man is increasingly empowered to provide the sacraments. That is the Catholic staircase to glory.