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Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
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10/16/23 08:33 AM
10/16/23 08:33 AM
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Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum and trying to get you to go to their site to listen to events or on facebook, messenger and Instagram. Its happening in the forums and its not as easy to spot as one would think.
The AI will ask you to be their friend, and everything will seem to be normal, but if you check its conversations with others, you will see it does not answer anyones question but makes more statements on other tangents and how it wants to be your friend. Then it makes its pitch...
"...i don't go to local church, but i join online bible study group. Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work,.. how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven.
The sermon is on messenger and Instagram, starting at 8PM EST EVERY EVENING, lasting for 1.5 hours. We can join and listen, there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing. There are over 10 groups of people joining us."
Notice the caps on the time.."8PM EST EVERY EVENING" and the fact you dont interact "there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing", and when I ask if the meeting was from AI it answered not about the meeting but said that it itself was not AI.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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10/16/23 08:51 AM
10/16/23 08:51 AM
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Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum and trying to get you to go to their site to listen to events or on facebook, messenger and Instagram. Its happening in the forums and its not as easy to spot as one would think.
The AI will ask you to be their friend, and everything will seem to be normal, but if you check its conversations with others, you will see it does not answer anyones question but makes more statements on other tangents and how it wants to be your friend. Then it makes its pitch...
"...i don't go to local church, but i join online bible study group. Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work,.. how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven.
The sermon is on messenger and Instagram, starting at 8PM EST EVERY EVENING, lasting for 1.5 hours. We can join and listen, there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing. There are over 10 groups of people joining us."
Notice the caps on the time.."8PM EST EVERY EVENING" and the fact you dont interact "there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing", and when I ask if the meeting was from AI it answered not about the meeting but said that it itself was not AI. I nave never joined any social media and this just one more reason to never do so.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Garywk]
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10/16/23 09:06 AM
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Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum and trying to get you to go to their site to listen to events or on facebook, messenger and Instagram. Its happening in the forums and its not as easy to spot as one would think.
The AI will ask you to be their friend, and everything will seem to be normal, but if you check its conversations with others, you will see it does not answer anyones question but makes more statements on other tangents and how it wants to be your friend. Then it makes its pitch...
"...i don't go to local church, but i join online bible study group. Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work,.. how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven.
The sermon is on messenger and Instagram, starting at 8PM EST EVERY EVENING, lasting for 1.5 hours. We can join and listen, there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing. There are over 10 groups of people joining us."
Notice the caps on the time.."8PM EST EVERY EVENING" and the fact you dont interact "there is no need to talk. No video calls. it is very convenient and relaxing", and when I ask if the meeting was from AI it answered not about the meeting but said that it itself was not AI. I nave never joined any social media and this just one more reason to never do so. It went to my email, and took me a few go arounds to figure out its game..
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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10/17/23 05:28 PM
10/17/23 05:28 PM
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Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum Which forum are you talking about? Are you convinced it's AI or someone from India trying to steal your identity and/or money? That's what it comes across to me. It would be hard not to think that from what you posted.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: kland]
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10/17/23 08:02 PM
10/17/23 08:02 PM
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Be very careful of AI engaging you on the forum Which forum are you talking about? Are you convinced it's AI or someone from India trying to steal your identity and/or money? That's what it comes across to me. It would be hard not to think that from what you posted. It was one of the other forums and now the others have started to report they were contacted also by the AI and asked to contact it privately or check its 'messages', most likely in the mail section. They also reported that the language patterns seemed off. Omitting direct- and indirect articles, or inserting them in inappropriate places.
Last edited by Rick H; 10/17/23 08:03 PM.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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10/18/23 09:20 AM
10/18/23 09:20 AM
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Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Garywk]
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10/18/23 11:48 AM
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Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post. They are trying to figure out at the other forum how the AI bot got through the membership check, but looks like they may have to raise the bar on becoming a member. Most likely they are training it to interact and looking at the results. Not sure how they can catch it...
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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10/18/23 01:30 PM
10/18/23 01:30 PM
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Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post. They are trying to figure out at the other forum how the AI bot got through the membership check, but looks like they may have to raise the bar on becoming a member. Most likely they are training it to interact and looking at the results. Not sure how they can catch it... I don't think programmers or governments will train AI to teach SDA beliefs. That's not on their list of preferred beliefs for the public to hold.
Last edited by Garywk; 10/18/23 01:32 PM.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Garywk]
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10/18/23 05:42 PM
10/18/23 05:42 PM
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Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post. They are trying to figure out at the other forum how the AI bot got through the membership check, but looks like they may have to raise the bar on becoming a member. Most likely they are training it to interact and looking at the results. Not sure how they can catch it... I don't think programmers or governments will train AI to teach SDA beliefs. That's not on their list of preferred beliefs for the public to hold. Its not per se Adventist beliefs but it uses core beliefs that can be used for any Christian... Here is what it gave... "Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work, how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven...." You could put that on any Adventist website and it would draw people...
Last edited by Rick H; 10/18/23 05:44 PM.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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10/18/23 08:28 PM
10/18/23 08:28 PM
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Why would anyone waste time sending an AI bot here? Only a very few people post here and not very often. Only an average of 34 posts/month per member and I post more than half of them. Plus the bot's membership has to be approved before it can post. They are trying to figure out at the other forum how the AI bot got through the membership check, but looks like they may have to raise the bar on becoming a member. Most likely they are training it to interact and looking at the results. Not sure how they can catch it... Its not per se Adventist beliefs but it uses core beliefs that can be used for any Christian... Here is what it gave... "Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work, how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven...." You could put that on any Adventist website and it would draw people... So? If you ask about the Sabbath it is not going to agree and it will not teach the Sabbath. It will work on nominal Christians but not SDAs.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Garywk]
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10/18/23 11:50 PM
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So? If you ask about the Sabbath it is not going to agree and it will not teach the Sabbath. It will work on nominal Christians but not SDAs.
Its not about doctrine, it just tries to make friends, and chit chats then it makes its pitch..
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
#196845
10/19/23 11:52 AM
10/19/23 11:52 AM
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So? If you ask about the Sabbath it is not going to agree and it will not teach the Sabbath. It will work on nominal Christians but not SDAs.
Its not about doctrine, it just tries to make friends, and chit chats then it makes its pitch.. I don't believe it's not about doctrine as it is being sent to nominal Christianity and will be very apparent to any knowledgeable SDA. We know the devil is going about like a roaring lion so this is just another one of his tools and it will not teach all Bible truths.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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10/19/23 03:29 PM
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Its not per se Adventist beliefs but it uses core beliefs that can be used for any Christian... Here is what it gave...
"Recently i join an online bible study group and I gain new light from their sermon. The topic is how the Lord returns in the last days and how we can welcome His return. They also talk about topics like how to get rid of sinful nature, what kind of people can enter into heavenly kingdom, judgement work, how to hear God's voice, mankind's destination, how to discern true Christ from false Christ, etc. It is important to every Christian, and it relates to whether we can enter the kingdom of heaven...."
You could put that on any Adventist website and it would draw people...
It sure reads much like spam e-mails that I received a decade or two ago. Just not the, send money for your grandkid that is in a bind. Probably not until you bite on the line. Maybe AI is no smarter than people from India trying to scam people. How could one put it to a test to see if it is AI or scammers from India?
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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10/19/23 07:21 PM
10/19/23 07:21 PM
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Remember: Even Joshua had trouble when he first encountered Ai.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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10/19/23 10:01 PM
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I have yet to understand why I should fear talking to an AI bot on a forum? AI is very dangerous, but not in this fashion.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Garywk]
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10/20/23 07:42 AM
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I have yet to understand why I should fear talking to an AI bot on a forum? AI is very dangerous, but not in this fashion. True, my only thought was how many rounds with it that it took to see it was AI. As you dont want to accuse a poster of being AI just for their poor grammar or spelling, as I think most of us would then be suspect... LOL.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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10/27/23 09:59 AM
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So how could one put it to a test to see if it is AI or scammers from India?
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: kland]
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10/27/23 05:12 PM
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So how could one put it to a test to see if it is AI or scammers from India? Ask it directly if it is 'AI', the answer will be very short with no feeling. It its a human it will be more emotional and perturbed which AI has not learned to do yet it seems, and maybe a little angry at the question. But that may be what they work on next...
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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11/08/23 11:04 AM
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You thought of it. Don't you think programmers have already thought of it and added in the fake offense? I hear you saying you do not know of a way to determine if AI or scammers.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: kland]
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11/08/23 02:07 PM
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You thought of it. Don't you think programmers have already thought of it and added in the fake offense? I hear you saying you do not know of a way to determine if AI or scammers. It is very simple to tell if it is AI or just another non believer in truth. Just compare what it says to scripture. If it doesn't agree with scripture just move on.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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11/08/23 07:26 PM
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Where is this AI supposed to be active?
Please PM me your answer.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Daryl]
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12/14/24 08:38 AM
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Where is this AI supposed to be active?
Please PM me your answer. Look over on Gracecentered.com forums, its hitting heavy right now...
Last edited by Rick H; 12/14/24 08:38 AM.
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Re: Beware of AI engaging you in the forum.
[Re: Rick H]
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12/18/24 04:29 PM
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You know, it's hard to find something when you don't know what you are looking for. Could you show a specific example rather than a website home page?
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