Jesus says, John 14:16 And I (ONE) will pray the Father (TW0), and he shall give you another (THREE) Comforter, that he (that third other comforter) may abide with you for ever;

John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost (that other comforter the third member), whom the Father will send in my name (that OTHER comforter comes in Christ's name), he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

John 16:13 It shall be when he, the Spirit of truth, (this third member) is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself (this third member does NOT speak about Himself); but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
John 15:26 When the Comforter (this third person) is come, whom I (Jesus the second person) will send unto you from the Father (the first person), even the Spirit of truth, which proceeds (he comes) from the Father, he (that other comforter the third person) shall testify of me (Jesus the second person):

So yes, John 14:16 says ANOTHER comforter will abide with you forever
And yes, John also says Jesus and the Father will abide with us.


They are three, but they are all on the same "wave length" of thought, emotion, purpose, and even on experience. They know each others every thought and experience.
While scientific knowledge about quantum physics is very limited and not fully understood, yet the work on quantum physics helps open understanding that there are other dimensions. Especially quantum entanglement, gives us glimpses as to how three can be ONE to the point where when one is present, all three are present by that one, yet they are three distinct entities'.

In some way quantum entanglement theory is showing that elements that are separated physically from each other, are yet somehow still very much linked and exhibit their same qualities and responses through both time and space, as if they were still together?..

John 14:16,17: "And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever -- the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

What do you think Jesus is saying here?

Jesus will pray the Father, and the Father will give you (believing humans) ANOTHER Helper (the Holy Spirit) that He (the Holy Spirit) may always abide with you. He (the Holy Spirit) is the Spirit of truth, but the world doesn't acknowledge or receive Him because they don't know truth, they don't know Him, and they have never seen Him. But you know Him (the Spirit of truth) for He (the Spirit of truth) dwells with you and will dwell in you.

What does He mean, that they know Him for He dwells with them, if He hasn't been given yet?

I would say, He has been given and will be given even more, but we must desire for Him to dwell with us.

Acts 2:1-4
King James Version
1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

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The Spirit of Truth (The Holy Spirit) has been here and active since creation.
He was active before the flood, striving with humans to bring them back to God.
Gen. 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man.


The Holy Spirit was with Joseph
Genesis 41:38 a man in whom is the Spirit of God.

It even descended on Saul just before he became Israel's first king.
1 Samuel 10:10 And when they came over to the hill, behold, a company of prophets met him (Saul) ; and the spirit of God came upon him, and he prophesied among them.

All the prophets spoke and wrote and prophesized under the power of the Holy Spirit.
2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Spirit.

Nehemiah 9:20 reveals the Holy Spirit's being active in the Old Testament teaching truth. "You gave your good Spirit to instruct them" (see also verse 30).



Jesus described the work of the Holy Spirit to Nicodemous in John 3. The Spirit was active influencing people's hearts even while Jesus was on earth.

However, it was AFTER Christ's death, resurrection, and ascension that the truth of what had just happened exploded under the great outpouring of the Holy Spirit. Even the disciples, who had believed previously in Jesus, had NOT understood the truth of His mission, until after His death, resurrection and ascension. But now the Holy Spirit filled them with the wonder of the true meaning of it all, and empowered them to preach and proclaim the message of salvation.


We, in our time, are not experiencing this "outpouring". Yes, the Holy Spirit is present and at work, but not with the power of that "early rain" regeneration and empowering our church members.
We need the latter rain, just as much as the disciples needed the early rain. Somehow it's not that the Holy Spirit is not here, but rather that the people are not open and longing to receive the Spirit of TRUTH, and if they did receive more "power" from the Holy Spirit, they would probably use it to their own glory.

It sounds like you are trying to say Jesus was not talking about Himself as the one dwelling with them.

So why do you think Jesus said that in light of the above? Do you think they are disjointed statements?