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Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end...
[Re: Rick H]
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05/30/23 12:10 PM
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Yes, but Ive been on some of these forums for over 20 years, and now all of a sudden they cut off any discussion or ban or exclude you in some fashion from the site. Something has changed... Are you speaking about another SDA forum, or about another Christian forum?
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Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end...
[Re: Daryl]
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06/30/23 08:32 PM
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Forums are usually owned and operated by individuals who have set them up to achieve a certain purpose the owners of the forum would like to see happening. They do have the option to determine what is presented on those forums. The Maritime Forum upholds the Adventist view, while other views are accepted the forum rules state: "You must either believe in or respect the 28 fundamental beliefs of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. You must also either believe in or respect one of those 28 fundamental beliefs regarding Ellen G White as a messenger of God for both her time and our time."
I've asked myself some questions, and it might be interesting to know your answers as well -- How many people have I actually convinced of our Biblical truths while debating with them or presenting what to me are convincing Bible studies concerning these truths, ON FORUMS? How about you?
How many people have I actually met on different forums who actually want to KNOW our beliefs and the third angels message? Even on some so called Adventist forums, basic Adventist beliefs and the third angels message are attacked while strange new ideas concerning them are pushed. It is considered being "progressive" to rework and change the very pillars of Adventist beliefs to fit more nicely in the modern Christian realm.
Somehow we need to find the people who are searching and hungry for truth -- How can we more effectively give the Loud Cry? How can we actually reach the people's hearts and minds and get them thinking and asking -- because if they don't for themselves establish the truth of these beliefs in their own hearts and minds all the debating won't convince them.
Thats all good, but I have been on some of these forums for over 20 years, and now all of a sudden they decide to cut off or ban what I was saying all this time. Something is definitely happening and evil is behind it... And I am battling against that from happening on one of those forums. Here is one of the other Adventist brother that was with me, and he got banned right after me. Look at the reason they give... https://www.baptistboard.com/thread...or-something-else-the-bible-says.123356/
Last edited by Rick H; 06/30/23 08:32 PM.
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Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end...
[Re: Rick H]
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07/02/23 08:33 PM
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QUOTE mainly from Early Writings THE LOUD CRY
The proclamation of the third angel's message, the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus, is the burden of our work. The message is to be proclaimed with a loud cry, and is to go to the whole world. The presentation of health principles must be united with this message, but must not in any case be independent of it, or in any way take the place of it. {CD 75.1}
The Lord Cry -- Early Writings by EGW. I saw angels hurrying to and fro in heaven, descending to the earth, and again ascending to heaven, preparing for the fulfillment of some important event. Then I saw another mighty angel commissioned to descend to the earth, to unite his voice with the third angel, and give power and force to his message. Great power and glory were imparted to the angel, and as he descended, the earth was lightened with his glory. The light which attended this angel penetrated everywhere, as he cried mightily, with a strong voice, "Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird." The message of the fall of Babylon, as given by the second angel, is repeated, with the additional mention of the corruptions which have been entering the churches since 1844. The work of this angel comes in at the right time to join in the last great work of the third angel's message as it swells to a loud cry. And the people of God are thus prepared to stand in the hour of temptation, which they are soon to meet. I saw a great light resting upon them, and they united to fearlessly proclaim the third angel's message. {EW 277.1} Angels were sent to aid the mighty angel from heaven, and I heard voices which seemed to sound everywhere, "Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." This message seemed to be an addition to the third message, joining it as the midnight cry joined the second angel's message in 1844. The glory of God rested upon the 278 patient, waiting saints, and they fearlessly gave the last solemn warning, proclaiming the fall of Babylon and calling upon God's people to come out of her that they might escape her fearful doom. {EW 277.2} The light that was shed upon the waiting ones penetrated everywhere, and those in the churches who had any light, who had not heard and rejected the three messages, obeyed the call and left the fallen churches. Many had come to years of accountability since these messages had been given, and the light shone upon them, and they were privileged to choose life or death. Some chose life and took their stand with those who were looking for their Lord and keeping all His commandments. The third message was to do its work; all were to be tested upon it, and the precious ones were to be called out from the religious bodies.
A compelling power moved the honest, while the manifestation of the power of God brought a fear and restraint upon their unbelieving relatives and friends so that they dared not, neither had they the power to, hinder those who felt the work of the Spirit of God upon them. The last call was carried even to the poor slaves, and the pious among them poured forth their songs of rapturous joy at the prospect of their happy deliverance. Their masters could not check them; fear and astonishment kept them silent. Mighty miracles were wrought, the sick were healed, and signs and wonders followed the believers. God was in the work, and every saint, fearless of consequences, followed the convictions of his own conscience and united with those who were keeping all the commandments of God; and with power they sounded abroad the third message. I saw that this message will close with power and strength far exceeding the midnight cry. {EW 278.1} Servants of God, endowed with power from on high with their faces lighted up, and shining with holy consecration, went forth to proclaim the message from heaven. Souls that were scattered all through the religious bodies answered to the call, and the precious were hurried out of the doomed churches, as Lot was hurried out of Sodom before her destruction. God's people were strengthened by the excellent glory which rested upon them in rich abundance and prepared them to endure the hour of temptation. I heard everywhere a multitude of voices saying, "Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." {EW 278.2}
The Third Message Closed
" I was pointed down to the time when the third angel's message was closing. The power of God had rested upon His people; they had accomplished their work and were prepared for the trying hour before them. They had received the latter rain, or refreshing from the presence of the Lord, and the living testimony had been revived. The last great warning had sounded everywhere, and it had stirred up and enraged the inhabitants of the earth who would not receive the message. EW 279
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Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end...
[Re: Rick H]
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07/14/23 02:14 AM
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Forums are usually owned and operated by individuals who have set them up to achieve a certain purpose the owners of the forum would like to see happening. They do have the option to determine what is presented on those forums. ...
How many people have I met on different forums who actually want to KNOW our beliefs and the third angels message? Even on some so called Adventist forums, basic Adventist beliefs and the third angels message are attacked while strange new ideas concerning them are pushed. It is considered being "progressive" to rework and change the very pillars of Adventist beliefs to fit more nicely in the modern Christian realm.
Somehow we need to find the people who are searching and hungry for truth -- How can we more effectively give the Loud Cry? How can we actually reach the people's hearts and minds and get them thinking and asking -- because if they don't for themselves establish the truth of these beliefs in their own hearts and minds all the debating won't convince them.
Thats all good, but I have been on some of these forums for over 20 years, and now all of a sudden they decide to cut off or ban what I was saying all this time. Something is definitely happening and evil is behind it... And I am battling against that from happening on one of those forums. Here is one of the other Adventist brother that was with me, and he got banned right after me. Look at the reason they give... https://www.baptistboard.com/thread...or-something-else-the-bible-says.123356/??peramabanned for SDA propaganda??!? If this amazing Sabbath supporting thread is SDA propaganda, it should be easily refuted with some biblical proof text? And, if there is no way to refute it, the only possible reason for an OP ban is deliberately choosing to believe a lie. May God open the eyes, unstop the ears, and enlighten the minds of Sunday keepers. ?Come out of her, my people!?
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end...
[Re: Rick H]
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07/19/23 11:43 AM
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Please let me know where these are so I can join them and continue the work you have begun there! Well the one I was most disappointed the most was with the Baptist Forum who were very strict in the Baptist section but allowed most levels of discussions in 'Other Christian" section. I got ousted on the state of the dead as I slipped and said "Adventist believe" instead of 'I believe', which they consider 'teaching' rather than 'discussing', my bad... https://www.baptistboard.com/forums/Another good one which I liked but where I was just restricted for discussing issues with creeds was Christian Havens, nice people but one moderator had a bad view of SDA's while the other was supportive... https://christianityhaven.com/categories/christian-only-forums.41/The Religious Forums banned me for thread the state of the dead, no warning or email... https://www.religiousforums.com/The Theology Online Forum was another one, it banned me with no warning or email, for discussing the Papacy as the Antichrist. I cant say much good about it.... https://theologyonline.com/There are some that are tightening discussion or issues but I am still on them, and others which I will have to recheck the issues with them, and some I just cannot recommend IMHO, as they or the members tended to be unchristian to say the least.... Theology On Line (TOL) has been banning people for years. Ever since Bob Enright bought the site it started to go down hill. After he died the banning of people really accelerated. I am banned there right now even though my account does not appear to be banned. One of the admins messed with the permissions on the account so that the only thing I can do is log in. I can't post, send PMs, or edit my profile.
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Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end...
[Re: Rick H]
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07/20/23 01:14 PM
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I have some more to say on this subject. I was going to say this yesterday but in my absent mindedness I simply forgot.
We will not be stopped when delivering the loud cry. When the HS is poured out we will be as courageous as the martyrs throughout history. We won't be burnt at the stake but we will face some very intense persecution as never before has the government had the ability to lock us completely out of the economy through the use of a digital economy.
I am actually looking forward to this as God has always protected His people and it is exciting and joyful to work for God and help Him save people. I love helping take the victims of the devil away from him. He is an incredibly cruel master so removing people from his control is the best thing I can imagine doing.
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Re: How will we be stopped from giving the Loud Cry truth at the end...
[Re: Garywk]
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07/19/24 06:54 PM
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I have some more to say on this subject. I was going to say this yesterday but in my absent mindedness I simply forgot.
We will not be stopped when delivering the loud cry. When the HS is poured out we will be as courageous as the martyrs throughout history. ..... Yes! Yes! Yes! The Loud Cry WILL BE GIVEN!!! It will not be stopped. It's true that not a day goes by (if we listen to world news) in which we hear something that makes us cringe and wonder how the world can last much longer. This week it was the assassination attempt, and a computer bug with serious disruptions world wide. Then there are hurricanes, fires, earthquakes, floods. And temperatures of over 100 degrees. AND yes, all the immorality, emotional woes of hurting people, off set by celebrations of evil, wars and destruction, hate and crime. But none of those messages will save anyone. Do you know what we need to be longing to hear? The Loud Cry of the Third Angel of Revelation 14 and 18, bringing news of Christ?s righteousness to every nation, tongue and people! It's the Righteousness of Christ, and His saving power we need to hear! The LOUD CRY will not be stopped, it will go forth in spite of all the lying politicians and their media propaganda; in spite of all the wars and military conflicts, and the agenda's to bring the world into the false worship system; in spite of AI and globalist aims to create trans-humans with robotic nanoparticles; and even in spite of forum moderators banning posters to post on their forums, and in spite of religious movements following the wrong prophetic message. In spite of all that LOUD CRY is going to happen. The Loud Cry will sound because there will be a people who have given their lives fully over to Christ in faith, trust, and loyal obedience. And they will be eager to tell their friends and neighbors of this life saving, eternal, wonderful Savior and His matchless love and plan. It's time to warn the world that Jesus reigns, He has the answer to human woe and trouble, and someday soon evil will be done away with forever. I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory? (Revelation 18:1). ?The loud cry of the third angel has already begun in the revelation of the Righteousness of Christ, the sin-pardoning Redeemer. This is the beginning of the light of the angel whose glory shall fill the whole earth. For it is the work of everyone to whom the message of warning has come, to lift up Jesus, to present him to the world as revealed in types, as shadowed in symbols, as manifested in the revelations of the prophets, as unveiled in the lessons given to his disciples and in the wonderful miracles wrought for the sons of men. Search the Scriptures for they are they that testify of him? (Ellen White, Review & Herald, 11/22/1892).
The psalmist says, "They have made void thy law. Therefore I love thy commandments above gold; yea, above fine gold" (Psalm 119:126, 127). When men press close to the side of Jesus, when Christ is abiding in their hearts by faith, their love for the commandments of God grows stronger in proportion to the contempt which the world heaps upon His holy precepts. {2SM 369.2} The biggest thing that holds back from effectively giving the LOUD CRY The remnant people of God must be a converted people. The presentation of this message is to result in the conversion and sanctification of souls. We are to feel the power of the Spirit of God in this movement. This is a wonderful definite message; it means everything to the receiver, and it is to be proclaimed with a loud cry. We must have a true, abiding faith that this message will go forth with increasing importance till the close of time. {Testimony Studies on Diet and Food, EGWhite, TSDF 194} A solemn responsibility rests upon those who know the truth that all their works shall correspond with their faith, and that their lives shall be refined and sanctified, and they be prepared for the work that must rapidly be done in these closing days of the message. They have no time or strength to spend in the indulgence of appetite. The words should come to us now with impelling earnestness. "Repent ye, therefore, and be converted, that their sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord." Acts 3:19. There are many among us who are deficient in spirituality, and who, unless they are wholly converted, will certainly be lost. Can you afford to run the risk? ... The power of Christ alone can work the transformation in heart and mind that all must experience who would partake with Him of the new life in the kingdom of heaven. "Except a man be born again," the Saviour has said, "he can not see the kingdom of God." John 3:3. {TSDF 194}
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