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Will Trump be able to lead.. #198147
11/06/24 07:51 AM
11/06/24 07:51 AM
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I was checking the news at 11 pm and even thought Trump was ahead they couldnt admit Kamala Harris was losing the election. I fell asleep and woke up later and still they wouldnt allow that Kamala Harris couldnt find a way to win, and when I woke up at 5 am they were still at it, with eyes heavy with sleep and slurred speech they still tried to keep up a pretense that she had a chance.

It doesnt look like they will ever be able to accept another Trump presidency if they cant even admit what the truth of the matter right before their very eyes..

"Opinion: Trump wins again. Will Democrats now practice what they've preached on democracy?

The Democratic Party can only blame itself for the outcome of this election. A stronger, more thoroughly vetted candidate than Kamala Harris could have likely defeated Donald Trump.

I will never forget the shock I felt late on Election Day 2016, when it started to look like Donald Trump would pull off a longshot victory over Hillary Clinton.
In the early morning hours of the next day, it became clear Trump had sealed the deal.
And now, he?s done it again.

Kudos to the president on his victory.

While I have concerns about how Trump will begin his second term in office, including whether he?ll be able to bring together a strong Cabinet and top-notch advisers, I have an even more pressing worry:
Whether Democrats will accept the results of this election and come to terms with Trump as president.... "

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opin...-wins-2024-election-results/75893069007/

And the shocked media reaction...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opin...ready-lost/ar-AA1tAHUt?ocid=BingNewsSerp


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Re: Will Trump be able to lead.. [Re: Rick H] #198148
11/07/24 07:00 AM
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The interesting comment in the link, on why Trump is elected --
"largely because tens of millions of voters still think Donald Trump is the kind of person who should be president, despite an internet worth of evidence that says otherwise."

Yes, the main line news and media on the internet (and elsewhere) consistently gave an internet worth of very negative evidence against Trump.
They were surprised to see their propaganda didn't really work.

For tens of millions of voters voted for him!

It goes to show the media acts more like a propaganda machine and can not be trusted to deal with objective truth.
The media did not portray the true feeling of the nation, who see in Trump hope to reverse a government that was sliding into ever increasing economic distress, and immoral values.

I'm not a US citizen, but even if I was I couldn't have voted -- there's no way I would vote for Harris, and to vote for Trump may be bringing in enforce worship.

True religious liberty neither enforces worship nor prohibits it.

Re: Will Trump be able to lead.. [Re: Rick H] #198149
11/07/24 05:01 PM
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Well, even they know their Woke ideology was a mistake now.....

"Political strategist and commentator James Carville blamed Vice President Kamala Harris' loss on her party's failure to distance itself from "woke era" politics....

During the most recent episode of his Politics War Room podcast, Carville outlined the "big, big mistakes" he believed the Democratic Party had made in the 2024 presidential election.

Carville said what "killed" the Democrats in these elections was a "sense of dishonor" among the electorate, part of which, he said, "was the unfortunate events of what I would refer to as the woke era."

"We got beyond it," he said. "But the image stuck in people's minds that the Democrats wanted to defund the police, wanted to empty prisons...it created a sense of dishonor."

Carville also cited the party's initial support for President Joe Biden to run for reelection and the process of choosing another candidate following his withdrawal in July.

"By Biden staying in so late, we didn't have any process," Carville said. "We had all of this unused [talent] sitting on the sideline."

Carville was remarking on Harris's near-immediate ascendance to the top of the party's ticket, bypassing the competitive nomination process that candidates traditionally have to undertake. This decision, criticized by some as undemocratic, has been touted by others as contributing to the vice president's eventual defeat.

"If we'd had some kind of an open process, it would have been much better," Carville added. "It could have been worse, but it could have been much better."

Carville, who coined the axiom, "It's the economy, stupid," ahead of Bill Clinton's victory in the 1992 election, also cited inflation as an additional "sign of dishonor" for voters.

Despite occasionally voicing disapproval at elements of her strategy, Carville had been a crusader for Harris throughout the election and was one of the most prominent voices forecasting her win.

In his October 23 op-ed for The New York Times, "Three Reasons I'm Certain Kamala Harris Will Win," Carville wrote: "America, it will all be OK. Ms. Harris will be elected the next president of the United States. Of this, I am certain."

As evidence, Carville cited the "losing streak" the Republican Party, including Trump, had endured since 2018, Harris's fundraising abilities, and his own political instinct?"It's just a feeling."...

Among the other sayings employed by Carville during Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign was that elections were won and lost on the promise of "change vs. more of the same." He said the Harris team had failed to pay attention to this "basic fundamental of politics."

"Change is what wins elections," Carville said before appearing to cite a recent NBC News poll finding that 65 percent of registered voters viewed the country as "on the wrong track."

"In a 65 percent wrong-track country, we were offering people the same track," Carville said....." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...388c0b0be964f23cc4d66ad44cfee05&ei=9

Re: Will Trump be able to lead.. [Re: Rick H] #198150
11/08/24 02:00 PM
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It looks like some radicals in the left are starting (or just enlarging to greater depravity) a campaign of deceit. Seeking to stir up more hate and fear.
Just clicked on the Microsoft search engine which always contains "news" articles for suggested reading. At the top is a "Metro" article claiming that Trump has ordered black people to report as slaves ...these "orders" were sent anonymously from unrecognized addresses from all over America to black people.
Obviously an organized campaign to create fear are making up and sending messages.

Seems some people will stop at nothing.
Though there is investigation and an effort to block further distribution of these messages. But just the way the news begins their report of the matter generates fear by the choice of their headline, which first makes it seem real that is Trumps doings, before adding these messages were sent by "anonymous" people.

Re: Will Trump be able to lead.. [Re: Rick H] #198166
11/12/24 06:18 PM
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The media is heavily slanted against the vote of the people.
The operators of the media are doing their best to have Trump out before he's even officially in, by ridicule and dire warnings that he will make America collapse.
The question "Will Trump Be Able to Lead"? -- well, the left is determined to keep him from leading and are trying to limit his powers and ensure their powers as much as they can before the inauguration.
With antagonism this high -- and with a real substantial ground level support for Trump (not being expressed on popular media) but never the less determined not to let the left win, well -- who knows what will happen? The divide is widening and the emotions are high.

One thing seems sure -- things are moving to a high pitch that can very quickly lead to trouble. One only wonders how long those four angels can hold back the fierce winds of strife?
A time of trouble is coming. One which even in all our careful theological mapping out of the final crises, we have not really visualized.

Our only safety is in God's Word, Grace and Power.

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Transgression has almost reached its limit. Confusion fills the world, and a great terror is soon to come upon human beings. The end is very near. God's people should be preparing for what is to break upon the world as an overwhelming surprise. {CG 555.2}

Christians should be preparing for what is soon to break upon the world as an overwhelming surprise, and this preparation they should make by diligently studying the word of God and striving to conform their lives to its precepts. The tremendous issues of eternity demand of us something besides an imaginary religion, a religion of words and forms, where truth is kept in the outer court. {CC 260.5} {PK 626.1}

The "time of trouble, such as never was," is soon to open upon us; and we shall need an experience which we do not now possess and which many are too indolent to obtain. It is often the case that trouble is greater in anticipation than in reality; but this is not true of the crisis before us. The most vivid presentation cannot reach the magnitude of the ordeal. {Mar 161.3}


Re: Will Trump be able to lead.. [Re: Rick H] #198179
11/13/24 05:25 PM
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The world is a theater and we're all actors.

They are all on the same team. This is nothing but drama, Hegelian Dialects, a distraction. Perhaps to stir up the people. Perhaps to just create continual tension so people miss the real thing.

Re: Will Trump be able to lead.. [Re: Rick H] #198180
11/13/24 07:13 PM
11/13/24 07:13 PM
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I agree! The polarization of the nation with forces working constantly to create
high emotions of fear and urgency in the population to clash together. They are all working together in a Hegelian Effect to bring in a new solution. I kind of think a supernatural power, as in the serpent, is the real leader and organizer of all this whole mess.

Here is quite an article
Originally Written and Published by + Carlo Maria Vigan?, Archbishop
former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America

He was excommunicated from the Catholic Church by the pope, July 2024, found guilty of schism - meaning he has split from the Catholic Church - after years of fierce disagreement with the pontiff. Though in disagreement with the pope, whom he feels is in apostacy, he is still Catholic of the true doctrine as perceived by him.


Serious Considerations after Trump's Election

Considerations after Trump's Election[/url]



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