EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE FOR THE SUNDAY LAW TO BE ENFORCED!

Are we there?
It's clear
The signs of prophecy are all fulfilling

Ispirational values loosening. Bringing much confusion.
Societies morally declining.

One thing is certain, Sunday laws are really coming.
Violence and threats of war increasing, people's heart's are fearing.
Every religious group, with the pope uniting.
Revelation's prophecies are now culminating.

There are so many signs now, the end could come in 2025, or 2026,or 2027

BUT we need to remember, God has the final word as to "when". He may still hold it back a few more years, He has the power to do so, if that is His will. It's possible our grandchildren will still have time to grow up and have families of their own, or maybe not. The reality is that everything is ready. It could happen in months. Earth's probation may soon be over.
It's our duty to be right with God and ready to point people to Christ, the only source of life and safety.

We are in the last TIMES AND SEASONS!

Watch this timely message -- a sermon by Dan Vis

The Times and Seasons

We have never seen such enormous changes and developments lining up in fulfilment of prophecy as we have seen in the last few years. What Adventists have been warning against is here.
Though I'm not sure if America has gone beyond "over the line" into the point of no return yet, though the overwhelming voice of the recent vote demonstrated, that in spite of strong liberal opposition, showed that very many in America wanted someone who would put America right again. We could very well be standing on that line of no return.



Has that time come?

The three forms of Christianity have basically united to vote in a president that promises to give them political power.

The three forms of Babylon (apostate church in which are still many of God's people)

1. Papal
2. Apostate Protestants who have lost their Protestantism
3. Pentecostal spiritualistic Christianity,


Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

I told some of the others at church that the gospel has been published and spread to all nations.as Christ had said, as it has reached everywhere all they need to do is read and believe. So we have nothing but the latter rain outpouring, close of probation and seven last plagues facing us with Christ Second Coming. But it met with surprising resistance, as Adventist always feel this has to happen and that, and will take time... But I told them it would be quick, weeks and days if not hours, rather than months and years, as SOP tells us, "Signs and wonders follow in quick succession".

At campmeeting last summer, I heard a presentation concerning the 10/40 Window. There are hundreds of millions of people who have never heard the gospel message. Will these be reached by heavenly agencies and the outpouring of the latter rain?

Am I permitted to ask if the Sunday Law is biblical? Many thanks. Piggler

Should you have said that?
I mean, isn't that in a way like Veith said?

There are large number of people who have not heard of Christ, let alone any Sunday Law.

Last plagues, yes, but if the persecution prior to that time should last over a year, would you become discouraged and lose hope?

Maybe explain more detail what you are asking.

No, Veith kind of fixed on saying it COULD come in one specified year, and added calculation.
I wrote that it COULD happen in the next three years, no calculations, just seeing lots of signs! Is there a problem in saying that? Actually, I'm not even referring so much to grand finality when Christ appears in the clouds of heaven, rather I'm referring to final conflict.
Saying it COULD happen within the next three years, is not the same as saying it WILL. We don't know how long the angel's will be told to hold back those winds of strife. But the winds of strife are threatening to engulf the world. We know that the final events will be rapid ones, the world is ripe for the harvest. Everything is in place. The final crises could hit any time! Though I'm kind of wondering why did you extract that statement without leaving it in context with the very next sentence that followed it, explaining that the timing was in God's hands, we don't know the when, we just know it will and we need to be prepared watching and praying.

The real question is --is our anchor secure in Christ right now? Where would we stand if they were let lose, now? For they COULD be let lose any time.

You're right, the loud cry hasn't gone forth in it's final loud voice, yet.
The final crises includes the enforcement of Sunday. You can be sure everyone will hear about Sunday laws then. It will be world news.
One thing we learnt from COVID, was that it didn't take much to get the whole world involved! That was just a short trial run. It won't be the vaccine offered as a mandated solution, in the final crises, it will be Sunday, but the methods of control were tested.

Sunday law comes in steps, and at each step the cry will get louder. The whole world will be brought to decision. People will be desperate as crises after crises hits, and Sunday is offered as the solution. But how can the papal substitute sabbath, gain favor with God? It's the seventh day God blessed, and made holy!
The latter rain will be poured out as the third angel's message sounds loudly throughout the world. The whole world is "lightened up" with God's glory, as the cry "Babylon is fallen, come out of her my people" is sounded around the world. (See Rev. 18:1-3/)

The big question for us -- are we anchored in Christ, are we sharing truth now, while it is still relatively easy?

" The work which the church has failed to do in a time of peace and prosperity, she will have to do in a terrible crisis, under most discouraging, forbidding, circumstances. The warnings that worldly conformity has silenced or withheld, must be given under the fiercest opposition from enemies of the faith." Testimonies, vol. 5, p. 463.

How long this time, from the first mandates, to economic persecution, to serious persecution, to death decree, will last, we don't know. Many who are now Adventist members will fall away. Those who aren't firmly anchored in Christ and the truth will "renounce the faith, and take their stand with its avowed enemies, toward whom their sympathies have long been tending. These apostates will then manifest the most bitter enmity, doing all in their power to oppress and malign their former brethren, and to excite indignation against them. This day is just before us. Testimonies, vol. 5, p. 463.

There is another thread that deals with your question
Prove from the Bible that Sunday is the Mark of the Beast

I understood Veith as saying that for the most, too.

And Veith said in many of his videos referring to such time the same as you did: Not definite, but COULD happen, is interesting.

I just think some are criticizing Veith for that much in the same way as some are criticizing Vine.

I agree! Veith did not set a date, and those who who respect and appreciate his research and insights did not see it as date setting. Yet he focused that one study on a specific year enough to give his antagonists something to jump on him and by expanding on what he said, and assuming more than what he said, try to discredit his ministry.

It is the same as the issue with Vine -- people look for a hook to rope and throw these speakers. They found a hook in a short paragraph in Vine's speech, and pushed it to it's limits, context and reason as to why it was said, not really considered. The swiftness to discredit him was astounding. And now even the pastor of the Village church!
I guess that's human nature, people want "all is well" sermons, not sermons like Veith and Vine often preach.
Even Jesus, who was preaching unadulterated truth suffered from the same antagonistic tactics.
Jewish leaders were constantly listening to Jesus, not to learn, but to find a hook so they could condemn him. The hook they found and used, was Jesus statement "destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up again."

Could it be providential that the NAD is embarking on Pentecost 2025 at a time when time may be running out?

I hear that more people are now open to hearing and heeding the warning more than any other time.

Yes, events in the past five years has awakened people, and there are many searching for answers. It is time to witness -the endtime message is a very timely message of truth, that has eternal results which people need. The harvest is ripe but the laborers are few.

I have finished watching it. After the first portion I was thinking, who is this guy, I need to see if he has other sermons. But then he got on this AI stuff. I think he makes too much ado about AI. I see it as just a well written computer program. In fact, everything Dan Vis was talking about, google could tell you years if not decades ago. He puts to much credence about AI monitoring your eyes as you look at web pages. I might have misunderstood him, but I disagree with what he's suggesting. Now if he were to go back and replace all occurrences of "AI" with "google", I would mostly agree with him. Or with "microsoft". Or with "facebook". If anyone is interested in how much google is monitoring your lives, and has been for decades, check your browser. Of course, if you're using a google browser, you are already pwned. But if using firefox thinking you're avoiding google, do this:
In address bar, type about:config. Then in the preferences filter field, search for "google". See how many things about google are either active or not active.

Surprised? You should be shocked!
That's why I use a firefox derivative with google mostly turned off, go in and ban (or "cancel"!) everything else about google, and use uBlock to block google third party spying. And yeah, I'm sure google knows quite a bit on me, but not nearly as much as they do on others.

Google is stalking you! And getting sites like maritime-sda-online.com to allow them to monitor you. Seems like I talked about this in the past. If you use gmail, you are tracked specifically. They know who your friends are, they know what your IP address is, and if you don't block the third party google spying, they know what websites you look at, when you look at them, for how long, and the sequence of sites you look at. Not using gmail and not using chrome, they know a little less and just know the sites you go to. Block google, and some sites won't work properly, but they know much less.

Kland-- on the tracking issue -- I agree. They have so many tracking methods, that there is really "no place to hide" anymore. Except one:
Psalms 119:114 Thou [LORD} are my hiding place and my shield: I hope in thy word.
Though I do believe AI is taking things to the next level, not only in tracking but in deceiving, a person can't be sure as to what's real and what is AI anymore.

I say too much emphasis on AI. Early on, scammers would pop up a message saying you need to do such and such with your computer. Quite obvious it was a scam - a least for those in the know. But then they got so good you couldn't tell if it was a windows window or the scammer popup window and you weren't really sure. Then there's the fake pictures. I think one was on here, I think it was of Obama saluting with his wrong hand. A more simple thing of mirrored image. But some "artists" are really good and it's hard to tell. AI is just computerized, or say programmatically done, so they can do it faster. And like said before, google was tracking you long ago. AI is just more of the same. And probably came from google. Just an updated version.

Look at the SpaceX booster landing. That's incredible. It just gently guided to the launch holder, settled in ever so softly. Amazing. I doubt AI was involved, but only well written computer programs that have advanced quite much.

Instead of making such a big deal of the term, "AI", look instead, of how much technology has advanced and that it is now quite a sophisticated tool, a "knife". Look instead, in whose hands this tool will be used, either for good or evil.

Sure, everything is advancing into incredible abilities we never even dreamed were possible 50 years ago. Include the technology behind AI. And yes, advances, even if there are good results along the way, are usually seized upon by evil to advance their agenda. I personally think you are underestimating what is happening with AI, but I'm happy to leave everyone to their own opinion on the matter as all that technology is beyond my understanding. What I see is that yes, at this point AI is still under control of humans programing the "tool", but there have been strange things happening when AI intelligence took control over and above what the programmers had in mind.
But everyone to their own conclusions.

AI was only one "evidence" in a much larger picture that we are plunging headlong into the last day crises described by the prophets. There's the whole massive swing in the political realm. For me that's big, as I've always said a big backlash would come before the end. Most people weren't that sure religionists would ever gain the upper hand, they were thinking the world would just drowned in an immoral and violent cesspool. But now we hear the thunderings of the backlash! Though God can still hold it back, the evidence is all around that we are on the tipping edge.
The question on people's minds, "Are we there?" Are we on the closing edge, just waiting for it to tip us into the last crises before Christ comes?