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Is it Over? Are we there?
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11/29/24 05:50 PM
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EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE FOR THE SUNDAY LAW TO BE ENFORCED!
Are we there? It's clear The signs of prophecy are all fulfilling
Ispirational values loosening. Bringing much confusion. Societies morally declining.
One thing is certain, Sunday laws are really coming. Violence and threats of war increasing, people's heart's are fearing. Every religious group, with the pope uniting. Revelation's prophecies are now culminating.
There are so many signs now, the end could come in 2025, or 2026,or 2027
BUT we need to remember, God has the final word as to "when". He may still hold it back a few more years, He has the power to do so, if that is His will. It's possible our grandchildren will still have time to grow up and have families of their own, or maybe not. The reality is that everything is ready. It could happen in months. Earth's probation may soon be over. It's our duty to be right with God and ready to point people to Christ, the only source of life and safety.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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We are in the last TIMES AND SEASONS! Watch this timely message -- a sermon by Dan Vis The Times and SeasonsWe have never seen such enormous changes and developments lining up in fulfilment of prophecy as we have seen in the last few years. What Adventists have been warning against is here. Though I'm not sure if America has gone beyond "over the line" into the point of no return yet, though the overwhelming voice of the recent vote demonstrated, that in spite of strong liberal opposition, showed that very many in America wanted someone who would put America right again. We could very well be standing on that line of no return. By the decree of enforcing the institution of the Papacy in violation of the law of God, our nation will disconnect herself fully from righteousness. When Protestantism shall stretch her hand across the gulf to grasp the hand of the Roman power, when she shall reach over the abyss to clasp hands with Spiritualism, when, under the influence of this threefold union, our country shall repudiate every principle of its Constitution as a Protestant and Republican government, and shall make provision for the propagation of papal falsehoods and delusions, then we may know that the time has come for the marvelous working of Satan, and that the end is near.--Testimonies, vol. 5, p. 451. {ChS 160.4} Has that time come? The three forms of Christianity have basically united to vote in a president that promises to give them political power. The three forms of Babylon (apostate church in which are still many of God's people) 1. Papal 2. Apostate Protestants who have lost their Protestantism 3. Pentecostal spiritualistic Christianity, "As spiritualism more closely imitates the nominal Christianity of the day, it has greater power to deceive and ensnare. Satan himself is converted, after the modern order of things. He will appear in the character of an angel of light. Through the agency of spiritualism, miracles will be wrought, the sick will be healed, and many undeniable wonders will be performed. And as the spirits will profess faith in the Bible, and manifest respect for the institutions of the church, their work will be accepted as a manifestation of divine power" . {GC88 588.2} Revelation 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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I told some of the others at church that the gospel has been published and spread to all nations.as Christ had said, as it has reached everywhere all they need to do is read and believe. So we have nothing but the latter rain outpouring, close of probation and seven last plagues facing us with Christ Second Coming. But it met with surprising resistance, as Adventist always feel this has to happen and that, and will take time... But I told them it would be quick, weeks and days if not hours, rather than months and years, as SOP tells us, "Signs and wonders follow in quick succession".
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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I told some of the others at church that the gospel has been published and spread to all nations.as Christ had said, as it has reached everywhere all they need to do is read and believe. So we have nothing but the latter rain outpouring, close of probation and seven last plagues facing us with Christ Second Coming. But it met with surprising resistance, as Adventist always feel this has to happen and that, and will take time... But I told them it would be quick, weeks and days if not hours, rather than months and years, as SOP tells us, "Signs and wonders follow in quick succession". At campmeeting last summer, I heard a presentation concerning the 10/40 Window. There are hundreds of millions of people who have never heard the gospel message. Will these be reached by heavenly agencies and the outpouring of the latter rain?
"...I will not forget you. Behold, I have graven thee upon the palms of my hands..."
Isaiah 49:15-16
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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Am I permitted to ask if the Sunday Law is biblical? Many thanks. Piggler
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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There are so many signs now, the end could come in 2025, or 2026,or 2027
Should you have said that? I mean, isn't that in a way like Veith said?
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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I told some of the others at church that the gospel has been published and spread to all nations.as Christ had said, as it has reached everywhere all they need to do is read and believe.
There are large number of people who have not heard of Christ, let alone any Sunday Law. So we have nothing but the latter rain outpouring, close of probation and seven last plagues facing us with Christ Second Coming. But it met with surprising resistance, as Adventist always feel this has to happen and that, and will take time... But I told them it would be quick, weeks and days if not hours, rather than months and years, as SOP tells us, "Signs and wonders follow in quick succession". Last plagues, yes, but if the persecution prior to that time should last over a year, would you become discouraged and lose hope?
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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Am I permitted to ask if the Sunday Law is biblical? Many thanks. Piggler
Maybe explain more detail what you are asking.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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There are so many signs now, the end could come in 2025, or 2026,or 2027
Should you have said that? I mean, isn't that in a way like Veith said? No, Veith kind of fixed on saying it COULD come in one specified year, and added calculation. I wrote that it COULD happen in the next three years, no calculations, just seeing lots of signs! Is there a problem in saying that? Actually, I'm not even referring so much to grand finality when Christ appears in the clouds of heaven, rather I'm referring to final conflict. Saying it COULD happen within the next three years, is not the same as saying it WILL. We don't know how long the angel's will be told to hold back those winds of strife. But the winds of strife are threatening to engulf the world. We know that the final events will be rapid ones, the world is ripe for the harvest. Everything is in place. The final crises could hit any time! Though I'm kind of wondering why did you extract that statement without leaving it in context with the very next sentence that followed it, explaining that the timing was in God's hands, we don't know the when, we just know it will and we need to be prepared watching and praying. The real question is --is our anchor secure in Christ right now? Where would we stand if they were let lose, now? For they COULD be let lose any time.
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Re: Is it Over? Are we there?
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There are large number of people who have not heard of Christ, let alone any Sunday Law. You're right, the loud cry hasn't gone forth in it's final loud voice, yet. The final crises includes the enforcement of Sunday. You can be sure everyone will hear about Sunday laws then. It will be world news. One thing we learnt from COVID, was that it didn't take much to get the whole world involved! That was just a short trial run. It won't be the vaccine offered as a mandated solution, in the final crises, it will be Sunday, but the methods of control were tested. Sunday law comes in steps, and at each step the cry will get louder. The whole world will be brought to decision. People will be desperate as crises after crises hits, and Sunday is offered as the solution. But how can the papal substitute sabbath, gain favor with God? It's the seventh day God blessed, and made holy! The latter rain will be poured out as the third angel's message sounds loudly throughout the world. The whole world is "lightened up" with God's glory, as the cry "Babylon is fallen, come out of her my people" is sounded around the world. (See Rev. 18:1-3/) The big question for us -- are we anchored in Christ, are we sharing truth now, while it is still relatively easy? " The work which the church has failed to do in a time of peace and prosperity, she will have to do in a terrible crisis, under most discouraging, forbidding, circumstances. The warnings that worldly conformity has silenced or withheld, must be given under the fiercest opposition from enemies of the faith." Testimonies, vol. 5, p. 463. How long this time, from the first mandates, to economic persecution, to serious persecution, to death decree, will last, we don't know. Many who are now Adventist members will fall away. Those who aren't firmly anchored in Christ and the truth will "renounce the faith, and take their stand with its avowed enemies, toward whom their sympathies have long been tending. These apostates will then manifest the most bitter enmity, doing all in their power to oppress and malign their former brethren, and to excite indignation against them. This day is just before us. Testimonies, vol. 5, p. 463.
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