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Trump's Threats on Canada #198367
01/08/25 02:41 PM
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At first I though it just a joke. When Trump talked about increasing Tariffs, Trudeau visited him and said that would hurt the US as well as they get considerable natural resources from Canada. Trump replies, well, maybe Canada should be the 51st state of the USA.

But now the news here is flooded with comments from Trump repeating the idea. That through tariffs and economic pressure they will take over Canada and make it the 51st state. A country BIGGER than the whole USA to be called a 51st state! Is this a ploy to get free natural resources.

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Mexico isn't happy either, even Greenland has been mentioned as a possible conquest.

So is Trump just "trolling" to get the world into high fright mode? Or is he a serious threat?

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198368
01/08/25 04:18 PM
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Has this "take over" been in progress for many decades already, and Trump is just moving to the next level?


Canada has been a proud nation, industrious, and strong defenders for their own sovereignty and distinction from the USA. History reveals several times when the USA tried to take over Canada. The early colonists with the help of Britain had to drive the Americans out several times. It was by blood that Canada became a well recognized and great nation, distinct from the USA .

*In the summer of 1775 Americans, before they had even declare their independence from Great Britain launched an invasion of the neighboring British colony of Canada. Their aim was to take Quebec and gain control of the St. Lawrence River.

*June 1812, Thomas Jefferson launched a three-pronged invasion of Canada, thinking that annexing Canada would be an easy task. That's one war that is described in Canadian history books much differently than it is described in USA history books as both claim victory. The truth is that the Canadian/British army drove the invading Americans out of Canada and chased them clear down to their capital in Washington DC burning down the capital building. Canadians claim victory as the American armies were successfully driven out of Canada. Americans claim victory because they were able to drive the Canadian/British army back out of the USA and they also won some other wars on American soil. But the American invasion to take Canada, was defeated!


It was after World War II that Canadian special relations with the United States became more intertwined .
The idea of ?continentalism,? was taking root which challenged the theory of national independence. Continentalism involved the gradual absorption of North American territory into the U.S. So Canada, being a nation in it's own right, had to be brought into subjection economically to the USA. Continental disputes with Canada were based on America seeking commercial control of Canadian natural resources and agriculture. Most agreements between the US and Canada were set up to give the US first access to many of these resources. Canada was always to deliver an agreed upon quota of the finest resource to the USA, before they could partake of their own resources. In return we would import many items from the USA.
I remember living in a community where the main job was working in a lumber mill. The lumber was all graded, the top grade went to the USA, while our houses and stores got the lower graded lumber.

What I'm seeing in the current debate, is those same two priorities playing out.
Continentalism absorption to make sure the 1st power (USA) gets the economic advantage as well as access to natural resources that now lie outside of her legal boundaries.

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198369
01/09/25 12:13 AM
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The talk show in the link below, believes we need to take Trump very serious. We, in Canada, see things on too small a scale, Canada has been working for small settlements to challenges without realizing the cost in the long run, while Trump sees things on a big, ambitious scale. Is the goal to make all surrounding countries dependent vassals and servants of the American beast?
This, to a great extent has been taking place in the past with Canada encouraged to limit their defense department, and dependent on the USA for protection.


Canada needs to stop acting like a vassal and stand up again as a serious country. Well, Trudeau is out, will Canada get a real leader with solid sensible head on him?
How serious is this take over Canada talk?



Question -- how does Canada fit in with prophecy. What would this mean in light of prophecy?


Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198376
01/10/25 07:35 PM
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I hope he is just blowing hot air. I thought the reason he is speaking of Canada as a 51 st was to make his "I'm all that" more "all that" Guy has a huge ego..

Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198378
01/11/25 06:54 PM
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We will know more about this soon after January 20, 2025.


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Re: Trump's Threats on Canada [Re: dedication] #198380
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That's interesting hearing about the history. I don't remember that being taught in U.S. schools. I think there are a lot of things in history that could have made things interesting for me rather than what they did require us to memorize. Like I think I got most of the presidents in order on the test, but I don't recall many now and sure didn't know how bad most were that I do know now.

I tend to believe that most of what Trump is saying is much like his talk of the past. Mostly "blowing hot air".


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