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Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered [Re: Karen Y] #198399
01/24/25 11:22 AM
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The seven churches addressed in Chapters 1 to 3 of Revelation are significant because they represent the internal condition of the churches and serve as a "gateway" to the New Jerusalem described in Chapters 21 and 22. The seven churches are presented as a starting point or a gateway that leads to the vision of the New Jerusalem, where the saved will reign with God. This connection implies that the spiritual state of the churches in the beginning has a bearing on the final outcome of the narrative. They are also a microcosm of the larger struggle between good and evil.

Chapters 21 and 22 of Revelation depict the establishment of a "new heaven and new earth," where the saved will reign with God. This section concludes the narrative of Revelation and fulfills the promise of the kingdom introduced in the opening chapter. These chapters represent the final resolution of the conflict between good and evil.

Chapters 4 and 5 describe a judgment scene that is central to the conflict. This section is about determining who will be sealed for salvation, which is directly linked to the ongoing battle between good and evil. This pre-advent judgment will determine who is aligned with God. Chapter 20 reiterates the concept of a reinvestigation of God?s judgment by the redeemed saints.

The sealing of the saints in Chapters 6 and 7 highlights those who have chosen God?s side and who will actively participate in the narrative that unfolds. These sealed saints are essential actors in the battle, delivering warnings of impending judgment. Chapter 19 depicts the joy and hope of the sealed saints at the Second Coming, which signifies the sealed saints experience a triumph of good over evil.

The seven trumpets are a warning of the seven plagues to come, which described in a lengthy volume in Revelation in comparison to other visions. The messages of the seven trumpets are directly linked to the fall of spiritual Babylon, described in Chapters 17 and 18. This fall is a consequence of rejecting the warnings and siding with evil.

Chapters 12-14 expose Satan?s true nature, emphasizing the intensity of the conflict. This section makes clear the stakes of this battle, forcing everyone to choose between God and Satan. The warnings delivered by the seven trumpets are followed by the seven plagues described in Chapters 15 and 16. These plagues are poured out upon the unrepentant and represent the consequences of choosing evil.

The narrative of Revelation is structured around a series of interconnected visions, which reveal a cosmic battle between good and evil that plays out in several stages as seen in the structure itself.

Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered [Re: Karen Y] #198442
02/03/25 11:17 AM
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I want to reiterate the previous discussion in a perspective of the Seven Trumpets.

Revelation's Interconnected Visions

The structure of Revelation illustrates the interconnectedness of its visions, showcasing a larger narrative. This summary portrays a cosmic battle between good and evil, emphasizing the significance of the seven trumpets in the unfolding storyline.

Chapters 1 to 3 describe the Seven Churches, which are important as they reflect the internal conditions of these churches and serve as a "gateway" to the New Jerusalem depicted in chapters 21 and 22.

Chapters 4 and 5 depict a pivotal judgment scene highlighting the conflict between good and evil. In this scene, a determination is made regarding who will be sealed for salvation. The heavenly courts compile a record of God's judgment, which the redeemed saints will review during the millennial judgment described in Chapter 20.

The sealing of the saints in chapters 6 and 7 emphasizes those who have chosen to stand with God and will play an active role in the unfolding narrative. These sealed saints are crucial during the battle, providing warnings about the impending judgments associated with the seven trumpets. Chapter 19 depicts the joy and hope of the sealed saints at the Second Coming, as they are granted the privilege of attending the bride's feast in heaven. This signifies that these saints ultimately triumph over evil.

The Seven Trumpets serve as a serious warning about the impending judgment associated with the Seven Plagues, as indicated by the lengthy description found in the Book of Revelation, which are more extensive than those of other visions. The messages conveyed by the Seven Trumpets are directly connected to the fall of spiritual Babylon, which is detailed in chapters 17 and 18.

Chapters 12 to 14 reveal Satan's true nature and highlight the intensity of the spiritual conflict. This section underscores the stakes of the battle, compelling everyone to choose between God and Satan. The Seven Plagues in Chapters 15 and 16 correspond to the warnings delivered by the Seven Trumpets, which serve as signposts.

The Book of Revelation is composed of interconnected visions that clearly demonstrate the vital importance of the Seven Trumpets in conveying its overarching message.

Re: Seven Trumpets reconsidered [Re: Karen Y] #198454
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It is important to note that the description of the seven trumpets in the Book of Revelation is more detailed than the descriptions of other elements within its four pillars: the seven churches, seven seals, and seven plagues. The level of detail associated with the seven trumpets is particularly significant due to its intensity compared to the other pillars.

The most word counts in rank from each pillar will be the fourth church, the sixth seal, the sixth plague, and the fifth trumpet.

The context of the sixth plague indicates that three unclean spirits are active in ecumenical movements. the sixth seal describes the event of the second coming of Jesus. The fourth church is rebuked about the spirit of Jezebel, who brought the sun worship God's people. The extensive description of the fifth trumpet warns of the entity opposing God's seal.

Thus, the overarching theme is the urgent message for us : the Papacy(the fallen star in the 5th trumpet) instigates the whole world to enforce the Sunday Law against the Seventh-day Sabbath(4th commandments) near the second coming of Jesus(depicted in 6th plague and seal), which the original problem rooted in the infiltration of Jezebel spirit(4th church).


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Let me reiterate the above.

It is important to note that the descriptions of the seven trumpets in the Book of Revelation are more detailed than those of other elements within its four pillars: the seven churches, seven seals, and seven plagues.

Again, note the most extensive descriptions from each pillar. That would be the fourth church, the sixth seal, the sixth plague, and the fifth trumpet. The sixth plague indicates that three unclean spirits promote evil through ecumenical movements. The sixth seal describes the event of the second coming of Jesus. The fourth church received a rebuke for the spirit of Jezebel, which led to sun worship among God's people. Lastly, the detailed description of the fifth trumpet warns of an entity that opposes God's seal.

In summary, the central theme highlights the urgent need to recognize that the Papacy, symbolized as the fallen star in the fifth trumpet, is influencing the entire world to impose Sunday laws that conflict with the seal of God?the Seventh-day Sabbath, as outlined in the fourth commandment. Notably, the fourth commandment is the most detailed of the Ten Commandments. As we approach the Second Coming of Jesus, represented in the Sixth Plague and the Sixth Seal, we can trace this situation back to the infiltration of the spirit of Jezebel, as illustrated by the fourth church. Consequently, each pillar focuses on the issue of counterfeiting the Sabbath, emphasizing the fundamental problem of Sunday laws being enforced by the Papacy.

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The next level of description within the four pillars has been identified as the seventh plague, the fifth seal, the sixth church, and the sixth trumpet. The seventh plague serves as a signpost as the second coming of Jesus that aligns precisely with the seventh trumpet and is accompanied by God's arsenal of weapons, manifesting as lightning, thunder, voices, earthquakes, and hail. The severity of the plague precisely unfolds as warned, reflecting God's threat to the disobedient wicked.

In the fifth seal, the souls of the martyrs cry out, "How long, O Lord, until You avenge our blood?" The God of justice must respond to this cry because these martyrs have kept the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus.

The condition of the Philadelphia church is viewed as optimal and prepared for Jesus's second coming.

In summary, the second rank among the four pillars emphasizes the theme of Christ's return, as indicated by the sixth trumpet. The three plagues?fire, smoke, and brimstone?will afflict the entities represented by the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. This event surrounding the seventh plague symbolizes the second coming of Christ. A stone, not made by human hands, will strike the idols at Christ's return, as Daniel interpreted in King Nebuchadnezzar's dream. This reference connects to the second commandment of God's Law, the second most detailed of all the commandments.

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In the words of volume ranking, the third place among the four pillars is represented by the third plague, the third seal, the seventh church, and the third trumpet. The overarching theme of this third rank connects to the tenth commandment of God's law, which addresses covetousness.

The thematic event of the third plague indicates the pollution of drinking water, as a result of: "You have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and you have given them blood to drink" (Rev. 16:6). The third seal proclaims, "A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine" (Rev. 6:6). This symbolizes a disregard for the value of spiritual essentials, motivated by the covetousness in human hearts.

The seventh church, Laodicea, reflects a spirit of complacency and apathy towards spiritual matters. Finally, the third trumpet warns of deceptive men's hearts, saying, "many men died of the waters because they were made bitter" (Rev. 8:8-9).

In summary, the root cause of drinking water pollution resulted from covetousness as we seen in the tapestry of the third ranking.
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The thematic connections among these four pillars suggest that the Papacy initiated a serious attack on God's law by replacing the fourth commandment with the observance of Sunday as sacred, removing the second commandment, and dividing the tenth commandment.

Isaiah 8:20 states, "To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them."

Hosea 8:1 proclaims, "Set the trumpet to thy mouth. He shall come as an eagle against the house of the Lord because they have transgressed my covenant and trespassed against my law."

Marching order is on and let us proclaim the truth of the prophecy now. Set the trumpet to our mouth and proclaim the truth. The battle belongs to the Lord and we shall see the salvation of our God

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