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Re: It has been done!
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01/04/06 06:45 PM
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There is no need to go around the circle twice. I shall proceed in forward motion.
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Re: It has been done!
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01/05/06 12:53 AM
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God handles the cases of some souls in unique ways.
EW 276
I saw that the slave master [SEE APPENDIX.] will have to answer for the soul of his slave whom he has kept in ignorance; and the sins of the slave will be visited upon the master. God cannot take to heaven the slave who has been kept in ignorance and degradation, knowing nothing of God or the Bible, fearing nothing but his master's lash, and holding a lower position than the brutes. But He does the best thing for him that a compassionate God can do. He permits him to be as if he had not been, while the master must endure the seven last plagues and then come up in the second resurrection and suffer the second, most awful death. Then the justice of God will be satisfied. {EW 276.1}
EW 286
Then commenced the jubilee, when the land should rest. I saw the pious slave rise in victory and triumph, and shake off the chains that bound him, while his wicked master was in confusion and knew not what to do; for the wicked could not understand the words of the voice of God. {EW 286.1}
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Re: It has been done!
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01/05/06 12:11 PM
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I prefer not to associate myself with racist comments. Here endeth the lesson.
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Re: It has been done!
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01/06/06 03:18 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Darius:
I prefer not to associate myself with racist comments. Here endeth the lesson.
huh? what was racist about what Mountain Man said? It was a quote about what God would do to those who were kept ignorant of God by their masters. It didn't specifically say "African-American" slaves, but slaves in general. That could also be interpreted to mean slaves mentioned in the Bible. Those who were not told of God nor allowed to worship Him. Please, Darius, tell me what was racist about what Mountain Man quoted? He was showing that God has unique ways to deal with special circumstances. Unless I misinterpreted what you were saying......
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Re: It has been done!
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01/06/06 03:54 AM
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That's right, Stephanie. God is not limited to one way of handling the judgment of mankind. The point is, in light of the preceeding discussion concerning infants, God will be able save some infants, in spite of the fact we are born lost, based on knowledge we may not understand now but we will when God explains it to us in heaven.
More specifically, we will also understand why the rest of the infants were not awarded eternal life. Which, given the light regarding certain slaves, I suspect unsaved infants will be treated as if they had never existed, that is, they will not suffer in the lake of fire with the rest of the unsaved sinners.
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Re: It has been done!
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01/06/06 03:55 AM
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Believe whatever you wish.
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Re: It has been done!
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01/07/06 03:50 AM
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Ok, then, Darius, I choose to BELIEVE that you misread or misunderstood the EGW quote......
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Re: It has been done!
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01/06/06 04:03 PM
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I don't judge a statement by who said it but by it's contents. I do the same when I read Jesus' comments that one can get eternal life by selling all one has. I can say that is false.
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Re: It has been done!
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01/06/06 04:14 PM
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And I would say your interpretation of what Jesus meant is false. "Let God be true, but every man a liar."
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Re: It has been done!
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01/06/06 04:47 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Darius:
I don't judge a statement by who said it but by it's contents.
Ok, then, please, tell us what you found to be racist in the quote? I don't see it. however, if you would be willing to point it out to me, I would be willing to re-read it.
This is what I read in the quote (paraphrase). A slave owner will have to answer for the sins of those he "owned" because he kept them ignorant of God. If the slave only knows fear, not love, God cannot take him to Heaven because, there, he wouldn't serve God out of love, but fear of punishment. The most compassionate thing God could do for this person is let it be as if he had not been born. He would not partake in the first resurrection because he would know nothing of God and his love. He would not partake in the 2nd because he was not allowed to learn of God and his love, so, the "master" would take on the sins of the slave.
Now, how is that racist?
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