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Re: It has been done!
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03/16/06 11:55 AM
03/16/06 11:55 AM
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Vaster, you run into trouble when you attempt to use conversational speech as the basis for doctrine. Conversations are very context-focussed.
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Re: It has been done!
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03/16/06 02:11 PM
03/16/06 02:11 PM
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- Mark 13:13
- Mark 16:16
- John 10:9
- Acts 14:47
- Acts 16:30
- Romans 10:9 - 10
- Romans 10:13 - 15
- 1 Corinthians 15:2
- Hebrews 13:13
- A New Life p.42
- Testimonies vol. 6, p.91
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None can depend upon their profession of faith as proof that they have a saving connection with Christ.
Isn't proclaiming salvation for people what the Catholic priests do (for a price of course)? It seems a little hard to tell people that they are saved when we know people will be lost. This is an even harder thing to do when we look at the above texts and these texts:
- Luke 16:15
- Romans 8:27
- 27 Fundamental Beliefs p.120
quote:
The Experience of salvation comes from God alone.
- 27 Fundamental Beliefs p.131
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Saving righteousness comes from the one righteous man, Jesus, and is conveyed to us by the Holy Spirit
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Re: It has been done!
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03/16/06 02:55 PM
03/16/06 02:55 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Darius:
Vaster, you run into trouble when you attempt to use conversational speech as the basis for doctrine. Conversations are very context-focussed.
Could you at least use quotes to make what you're refering to more obvious? Are you refering to the text Thomas quoted? If so, are you saying that parables, because you see them as conversational, are no basis for determining doctrine?
Or, are you refering to something else that Thomas wrote? Or, are you refering to something to which Thomas referred? Or, are you just talking in circles? I'm trying to make sense of what you said, but the ambiguity is fierce competition.
Jeff
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Re: It has been done!
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03/17/06 03:22 AM
03/17/06 03:22 AM
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Jeff, the parable in Matt. 24 was in response to a particular set of circumstances; it was not a doctrinal treatise.
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Re: It has been done!
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03/16/06 04:00 PM
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Do you find no relevant, timeless, cultureless principles of truth taught in the parable that you might find worthy of the explanation that satisfies Thomas’ request?
Jeff
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Re: It has been done!
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03/16/06 04:33 PM
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The overall principle is that we should be diligent with the work we have been assigned. That's all.
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Re: It has been done!
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03/16/06 04:46 PM
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And what work are you refering to?
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Re: It has been done!
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03/16/06 04:50 PM
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Your work is different from mine.
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Re: It has been done!
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03/16/06 05:06 PM
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Strange, I read a commission to the church. quote:
So go and make followers of all people in the world. Baptize them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. 20 Teach them to obey everything that I have taught you, and I will be with you always, even until the end of this age."
Matthew 28:19 - 20 NCV
It sounds like we all have the same ting to do.
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Re: It has been done!
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03/16/06 05:11 PM
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How can each person have a completely different work if all are to have the same purpose? quote:
I have given these people the glory that you gave me so that they can be one, just as you and I are one.
John 17:22 NCV
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