Interesting. It sounds like your church might be doing a bit of pandering. Yeah, I would say we are not even on the same planet. If we are to be lively, we might as well have a rock conceret ever sabbath and then a dance. That is more or less what I have seen the Penticostals do.

Again, the Fahter's house is a house of prayer, not of dancing, jumping, shouting, clapping, etc. It is offten reccomended that if there are problems in a church, the pastor should not even have a sermon, but should devote the entier church service to prayer.

"O Lord, please let something happen in church today that is not in the bulletin".........Amen.

If worship services are not kept fresh and uplifting then people begin to worship the letergy and not the Savior..........Might be a clue as to why there are 3 times more Adventists outside the church than in.............

"The whole sanctuary service was designed to impress the people with the fact that the things which God has set apart for himself are holy. They were ever to observe the distinction between the sacred and the common. Holy things must be kept holy." RH Feb 4, 1902

Large "numbers" in the church are no indicator of holiness or that one must be on the right side. The largest church in the world is catholicism and they are clearly not following the Bible.

If a person wants to dance, jump, wave hands in the air and basically follow penticostalism, they are free to join a Sunday keeping penticostal church and will be welcome with open arms. But don't bring "unholy" and "common" things into the SDA Church that professes to preach and teach and believe the truth!

debbie

Romans 14
4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

7For none of us lives to himself alone and none of us dies to himself alone. 8If we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

10You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. 11It is written: “ ‘As surely as I live,’ says the Lord, ‘every knee will bow before me;
every tongue will confess to God.’ ”

13Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way.

16Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men.

22So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the man who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23But the man who has doubts is condemned if he eats, because his eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

What is pleasing to God? There must be something that He approves of vs. what He does not approve of?
God Bless,
WIll

Debbie, what the heck are you talking about? Joining a Sunday keeping church??? This is not even close to the topic at hand.
-Signs of life within a church are not signs of the Pentecostal religion entering the church, why must we lump a service that has a Holy Spirit filled worship, with Pentecostalism (the religion) I do not see anyone here even hinting about joining Sunday keeping faiths, nor to bend us towards "dancing in the pues!"
By the way: Again no one wants to look at the raising of hands in church??? Interesting...

Am I beeing ignored or what? I have talked about rasing hands in church. Please go back and read.

The bible speaks of "lifting up holy hands without wrath or doubting" in prayer. But it does not say it is to be done as a whole group during the worship services to invoke the Holy Spirit power to come on them so they can speak in false tongues. (I'm not saying you said this Daniel--I'm just making a point!)

To me, "holy hands" would be a privilege of the wise spiritual leader, Evangelist or Pastor, not the congregation. How many congregations can say they are "holy?"

The connotation of the lifting up of hands today is in a Pentecostal sense--inviting a false spirit to take control. We are told to stay away from such things, even if they are good (such as the lifting up of hands), if they bring a wrong influence to others. Very few SDA's today will use this method of prayer in our congregations.

Satan has distorted and changed truth just a tiny bit to make it seem attractive and right. We need to be careful and on our guard.

Dear Brother Dave,
I too have asked if anyone out there wanted to tackle lifting hands in church.......with no response. Can you believe a people that proclaim to be "God's Remnant" can't address a simple question as to lifting hands in church????