maybe they are not skipping your posts.

If we are to be a people that worship as they did in the past, are we therefore bound to not wear shoes in the sanctuary, or to follow other so called out dated rules?

We can not have it both ways, either the worship service in God's house is to be rigid towards the sanctuary service of the OT or it is to be viewed as a "work in progress" with the Elders and leaders offering guidance to the church body asto the appropriatness of the worship service.
-Where is it written in scripture that "Childrens story" is a part of the order of service?
-I am not saying that the service needs to be revamped fully, just that if a church expresses worship in song with "Campmeeting style songs" or "Hymnal classics" or "My Reedemer Lives" why are we fighting against this?

It seems like you are because you keep asking question that I have answered, and keep making statements that are untrue based on what I have posted.

Perhaps we should follow Jesus' NT teaching that the father's house should be a house of prayer and noting more!

Do we really need to be entertained by church? Do we need to entertain to bring people in? Is the truth and good news not enough now?

Who is being entertained? And what is entertainment?

Tom

I created another topic on lifting up hands in church, therefore, please discuss that one there.

If we are clapping, we are indicating approvuale; IE we are entertained.

What are any reasons, other than we want to be entertained, to deviate from making the father's house a house of prayer? For what other reasons, other than we anre not entertained, should we be changing the church?

Entertainment

• Something that amuses, pleases, or diverts, especially a performance or show.
• The pleasure afforded by being entertained; amusement: The comedian performed for our entertainment.

Indicating approval is is not the same as being entertained. I can approve of a Sabbath sermon but that does not make it entertainment. I can approve of a special music that brings me closer to the Creator but it is not primarily entertainment. I can say amen after a uplifting thought in a sermon, or some people will clap but that does not make what is being said entertainment. While I don't like clapping in church it is not for me to judge the motives of the one clapping.

Redfog

Perhaps a more direct approch for showing apprciation for what someone presents would be to tell them after. That way, it is not a distraction or interuption in the service.

BTW, I have heard the arguemnt that we need to make church "more entertaining" to bring people in.

Dave,

Have you any experiences from SDA churches which could be called "house of prayer" to share? Most SDA churches have a simmilar if not identical program and order of things happening during sabbath morning, and based on this, the average SDA church could be called "house of preaching" or possibly "house of biblestudy". Prayer is not a main featrure in any ordinary sabbath morning worship service ive been to. I have attended some conferences where a big part of the devotion time was prayer though. SDA churchplanting conferences.

/Thomas