I have been doing a bit of research about this question about meat eating among Adventists being a sin.
While no man or group of men is allowed by the Lord to dictate to other saints what they should do with their bodies, there is equal wrongdoing in me if I do not show my brothers and sisters what the Lord has revealed via His appointed Messenger for the Last Days, Sister White.

What anyone does concerning this is their own choice, and no intention to bully, browbeat or coerce is intended.

"The Lord's curse is upon the earth, upon man, upon beasts, upon fish in the sea; and as transgression becomes almost universal, the curse will be permitted to become as broad and as deep as the transgression. Disease is contracted by the use of meat. The diseased flesh of these dead carcasses are sold in the market places, and disease among men is the sure result.
The Lord would bring His people into a position where they will not touch nor taste the flesh of dead animals. Then let not these things be prescribed by any physician who has a knowledge of the truth for this time. There is no safety in eating the flesh of dead animals, and in a short time the milk of the cow will also be excluded from the diet of God's commandment- keeping people. In a short time it will not be safe to use anything that comes from the animal creation. Those who take God at His word and obey His commandments with the whole heart will be blessed. He will be their shield of protection. But the Lord will not be trifled with. Distrust, disobedience, and alienation from God's will and way will place the sinner in a position where the Lord cannot give him His divine favor." {18MR 354.1}

As chicken cholera and flu wipe out millions of farmers in Asia right now (have you not heard?), in hometown USA folks are salivating over a trully horrible-sounding dish...at least to me.{PS: Mad Fish disease is not far away.}

Peek at this:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=816&e=3&u=/ap/20040115/ap_on_fe_st/brain_sandwiches

Yummy deep fried cowbrains looks like the chicken burger from mcdonalds hehe. What is the horible sounding fish you are referring to Ikan?
I was wondering if anyone has any good recommendations for a soya based cheese.

God Bless,
Will

Will:

I was talking about the cow brain sandwich when I said "are salivating over a trully horrible-sounding dish".....not fish. Heehehehe...

There is a great homemade cheese book using all veggie ingrediants called "The Un-cheese Book". Maybe a google search will find it for you.

I get Tofutti brand 'American cheese' slices from the health food store here. They have other brands of block soy cheese too, but they all have casein (a milk protein) in them, so I avoid. The Tofutti doesn't have the casein in it.

I cant believe I said fish lol!!
I will look for the uncheese book, and see if Tofutti is available locally, but what is really strange is that if you do not want to eat cheese and remove dairy produicts from your diet why on earth add casein to the "vegan" cheese?! It defeats the purpose. Thanks for the info.
God Bless,
Will

It does seem kinda silly doesn't it. Casein is an emulsifier in such cases; helps hold the 'cheese' together. But lecithin can do the same thing, other vegetable-based substances can too.

Casein's also used as furniture glue, and as the glue that's used to stick labels on beer bottles, according to Robert Cohen.

Don't want it in my tummy any more! Or anything else from a cow, mad or otherwise.

I have just read an AP article with the lates numbers given in their search for other cattle from the host herd.

Kingman, KS U.S.A. - Officals have tracked 5 more animals from the host herd of Canadian cattle. This brings the total number of cattle identified to 19 of the known 81 head of cattle that entered the United States. Read More At:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&nicd=519&=e1&u=/ap/2004117/ap_on_re_us/mad_cow_search


Here are more associated articals on the latest information coming from government sources.

Full Coverage
More about
Mad Cow Disease
Related News Stories
• High-Tech Tools Needed to Track Cows AP (Jan 17, 2004)
• More Cows of Infected Canadian Herd Found AP (Jan 17, 2004)
• Cows From Herd With Mad Cow Found in U.S. AP (Jan 16, 2004)
Opinion & Editorials
• Thoughts about mad cows Washington Times (Jan 16, 2004)
• Markets advance grass-fed beef Seattle Post-Intelligencer (Jan 14, 2004)
Feature Articles
• Meat industry has resisted cleaning up its act for decades LA Weekly (Jan 16, 2004)
• Ranchers tout safe beef options Denver Post (Jan 14, 2004)
Related Web Sites
• Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE)
• BSE Fact Sheet
• vCJD and BSE - The Link


To me, this makes me very happy that I am a vegetarian. I know that being a vegetarian does not make me safe from some sort of outbreak of sorts, but with the help of Our Lord Jesus Christ we will all be safe.

Why do others shrug this out break off so lightly and continue to order up their favorite burger, or order their sausage and eggs? Just does not make much sense to me.


God Bless!

BusyBob

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URL typo correction only. - Daryl

[ January 18, 2004, 05:53 PM: Message edited by: Daryl Fawcett ]

Bob I live only a few hours away from Mabton, Washington where the first mad cow disease was discovered on a farm there. In the newspaper a few days ago it showed a picture of all the people in Mabton gathering for a big celebration of farming and especially cow-farming. It showed them chomping down their burgers and saying they were banding together to support one another in a neighborly way, to show the world they were not afraid of mad cow disease, etc. and etc.

I thought to myself how foolish they were. How can people let their little children eat beef knowing that this disease is a possibility. It made me think of the train where Sister White saw the world traveling together at high speeds to perdition.

Ikan,

There is an article you might be interested in reading. The Development of Adventist Thinking on Clean and Unclean Meats by Ron Graybill . I have upoaded it to one of my websites you can access it at http://gold_prospector.tripod.com/adventistthinking.htm

It's a long article so I decided not to post it here. Those who want to view it can go to the site those who don't will not have to scroll down page after page.

It is quite interesting and well documented.

Enjoy,