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Re: The Gospel According To John #41301
09/27/00 12:47 PM
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Because of their preconceived notions of who and what the Messiah would be.

They had built up in their minds exactly what they wanted and refused to accept anything else.

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41302
09/28/00 01:58 AM
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The Jews wanted freedom from the Romans, not freedom from sin. It seems they had a wrong concept of what sin is.

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41303
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What about His own receiving Him not today?

Is that possible?

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Daryl Fawcett

[This message has been edited by Daryl Fawcett (edited September 28, 2000).]


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Re: The Gospel According To John #41304
09/29/00 05:33 AM
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John 3:
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

John 14:
23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.


All we have to do is reject, disobey, neglect to hear, turn away from study & obedient action & we receive Him not.

[This message has been edited by Edward F. Sutton (edited September 29, 2000).]


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Re: The Gospel According To John #41305
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And how many end up by receiving Him not simply by neglecting to come to Him each day.

That's where daily devotions and prayer are so important and yet how many actually have a head knowledge of that and yet fail to receive Him daily through daily devotions and prayer. And then we wonder why we don't do so good in the spiritual warfare that is raging invisibly all around us.

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41306
10/02/00 07:29 PM
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John 1:12 "But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name:"

In what way did Jesus give those who received Him "the power to become the sons of God"?

Also, what does it mean to "believe on His name" or how do we "believe on His name"?

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41307
10/04/00 01:23 AM
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To answer my own question, when man sinned in Eden he lost all his rights and deserved the penalty of death. The plan of salvation restored man's opportunity and once again through Christ gave him the opportunity to know God and the power to choose to serve him. God does not arbitrarily make men His sons; He enables them to become such if they so choose.

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41308
10/04/00 03:37 AM
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I had a meeting today with a pastor of another denomination who would have cornered you for sure with this last post Daryl!

I was talking to him about the text that says "work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."

He was trying to tell me that there are many SDA's coming out of adventism, and "into more grace," and that what I was saying had no real import.

I was just over at this guys place to do an estimate on a job; and somehow we got comparing the Scriptures with one another.

He sounded to me like he was trying to say that God does everything; and we don't do any of it. He was very well versed in many Scriptures; and yet, something seemed to be missing...

If God doesn't give us free choice, and allow us to "work out our own salvation," to others, in personal testimony, (Rev.12:11), what have we got but another empty religion, with the hollow victory of an uncaring and arbitrary Lord?

I'm glad that even though I likely won't get the handyman end of the work; the door is open for us to study/discuss more!

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41309
10/04/00 11:38 AM
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Daryl is Biblically accurate.
Death=wages of sin
God's gift=life
have not because you ask not
come unto me that ye might have life-they didn't

unless you decide to come & decide to take His prescribed steps to remain, you become self decieved & will wear rose colored glasses till it's too late.

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Re: The Gospel According To John #41310
10/07/00 01:03 AM
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John 1:13 "Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God."

What is this verse saying?

What does it mean?

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