Trying to get him to say something they could twist and use against him later.

Same tactic they used against Jesus later.

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Examine me, O LORD, and prove me: try my reins and my heart. Ps.26:2
It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in men.Ps.118:8

I have been a real slacker on this topic.

Getting back to John 1:21, who were they referring to when they asked John the Baptist if he were that prophet?

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Originally posted by ChristianSoldier:

I noticed that the above verse Daryl is referring to tells us that the Son, (Jesus), has "declared" God.

How did Jesus do this?

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I would like to see this question persued.
How did He declare the father?
does He still do it today? [trick question]

To declare - (Jesus declaring God the father)
telling about Him

demonstrating His teachings

stand as representative of Him as His Equal but subordinated Leasion to humanity

explain about God the Father, as only His Equal could

Psalms 22:25 My praise shall be of thee in the great congregation: I will pay my vows before them that fear him.

Psalms 35:18 I will give thee thanks in the great congregation: I will praise thee among much people.

Psalms 40:9 I have preached righteousness in the great congregation: lo, I have not refrained my lips, O LORD, thou knowest.

Psalms 40:10 I have not hid thy righteousness within my heart; I have declared thy faithfulness and thy salvation: I have not concealed thy lovingkindness and thy truth from the great congregation.

declare * = 138 texts (And you thought I was going to post all 138 texts & their Strong's #s & definitions. {I thought about it..... yuppers.)

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

John 17:26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

John 1:18 No man <3762> hath seen <3708> (5758) God <2316> at any time <4455>; the only begotten <3439> Son <5207>, which <3588> is <5607> (5752) in <1519> the bosom <2859> of the Father <3962>, he <1565> hath declared <1834> (5662) him.

John 17:26 And <2532> I have declared <1107> (5656) unto them <846> thy <4675> name <3686>, and <2532> will declare <1107> (5692) it: that <2443> the love <26> wherewith <3739> thou hast loved <25> (5656) me <3165> may be <5600> (5753) in <1722> them <846>, and I <2504> in <1722> them <846>.

1834 exhgeomai exegeomai ex-ayg-eh’-om-ahee

from 1537 and 2233; TDNT-2:908,303; v

AV-declare 5, tell 1; 6

1) to lead out, be leader, go before
2) metaph., to draw out in narrative, unfold a teaching
2a) to recount, rehearse
2b) to unfold, declare
2b1) the things relating to God
2b2) used in Greek writing of the interpretation of things sacred and divine, oracles, dreams, etc.

1834. exhgeomai exegeomai ex-ayg-eh’-om-ahee; from 1537 and 2233; to consider out (aloud), i.e. rehearse, unfold:—declare, tell.

1107 gnwrizw gnorizo gno-rid’-zo

from a derivative of 1097; TDNT-1:718,119; v

AV-make known 16, declare 4, certify 1, give to understand 1, do to wit 1, wot 1; 24

1) to make known
1a) to become known, be recognised
2) to know, to gain knowledge of, have thorough knowledge of
2a) in earlier Greek it means "to gain a knowledge of" or "have thorough knowledge of"

1107. gnwrizw gnorizo gno-rid’-zo; from a derivative of 1097; to make known; subjectively, to know:—certify, declare, make known, give to understand, do to wit, wot.

It looks like Ed did a good job answering Gerry's question.

How about telling me who they were referring to by that prophet in verse 21?

A few months have gone by since I asked this question, therefore, I am going to try and resurrect this topic by asking it again.

Who they were referring to by that prophet in John 1:21?

Can anybody answer this question?

They were refering to "that Propher" Moses......

Matthew Henry's Consice Commentary:

#19-28 John disowns himself to be the Christ, who was now expected and waited for. He came in the spirit and power of Elias, but he was not the person of Elias. John was not that Prophet whom Moses said the Lord would raise up to them of their brethren, like unto him. He was not such a prophet as they expected, who would rescue them from the Romans. He gave such an account of himself, as might excite and awaken them to hearken to him. He baptized the people with water as a profession of repentance, and as an outward sign of the spiritual blessings to be conferred on them by the Messiah, who was in the midst of
them, though they knew him not, and to whom he was unworthy to render the meanest service."

Second Advent Review and Sabbath Herald
-DT- 01-21-73---Life and Mission of John

"Men were sent from the highest authority in Jerusalem to inquire in regard to the great agitation John was creating. He was calling whole cities and towns to listen to his voice of warning; and they would know the prophet's authority for thus claiming the attention of the people, and turning the world upside down. These messengers challenged John to tell them certainly if he was the Messiah. John confessed, I am not the Christ. And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou
that prophet? And he answered, No. Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias. John is then questioned as to his authority for baptizing, and thus agitating the people, when he does not
claim to be Christ, or Elias, neither that prophet. The words, "That prophet," have reference to Moses. The Jews had been inclined to the belief that Moses would be raised from the dead, and taken to Heaven. They did not know that Moses had already been resurrected. "

Their question sort of had a double meaning of Moses and/or the Messiah, for it seems to clearly point directly back to the prophecy of the future messiah given by Moses in Deuteronomy 18:14-22. The phrase "that prophet" was refering to the One of whom Moses spoke who would be like Moses. As the one who lead God's people out of bondage to Egypt he was a type of Christ or Messiah, one who saved the people and who pointed forward to the Savior who would lead God's people out of bondage to sin.

As the quotes that Charlene just posted indicate, the Jews had misconstrued this prophecy to mean that Moses himself would come to save them again from their earthly enemies or the Romans, rather than One in the spirit of or One like a Moses. They had misinterpreted many of the later prohecies about the glory of Christ's second coming to apply to His first advent. Interestingly, the Samaritans to whom Jesus pointedly reached out, had rejected this misinterpretation, accepting only the prophecies of Moses and perhaps understood the prophecy of Moses as it was intended. This of course only further galvanized the Jewish leaders rejection of Jesus as the Christ.

I find it interesting that John the Baptist chose to associate himself and his role with Isaiah, the prophet that most clearly pointed the way to the Messiah's coming. Isaiah most beautifully and clearly identifies how and why Jesus would come.

Tom

Am I to understand that the words that Prophet was the Jews, or more specifically, the Pharisees, referring to the resurrection of Moses, whereas, in reality that Prophet should actually have been referring to Christ?

Daryl,

That is how I understand it. Whether the Pharisees actually intended a double meaning is not so clear. Their understanding of the prophecy of Moses recorded in Deuteronomy 18 had taken on the peculiar twist that Moses himself would come as the fulfilment of this messianic prophecy. As they were spiritually dead they did not discern the spiritual significance of a coming Messiah as conveyed by Isaiah. This is what John redirected them toward. The term That Prophet was essentially code for Messiah.

As is often the case, multiple meanings are possible for certain passages. The prophecy in Deuteronomy took place at the end of Moses life and was his reassurrance that God would not leave them without one to lead and guide them to the promised land and beyond after Moses died. On one level, it identifies a line of prophets who followed in Moses footsteps. And Jesus is a unique fulfilment and culminination of this prophecy that God would never leave nor forsake His people and that He would provide a Way.

Tom