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Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41821
03/23/01 10:56 PM
03/23/01 10:56 PM
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Andrew Marttinen  Offline OP
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The latest news according to the BBC is that 50% of Britain's livestock could be slaughtered because of foot and mouth disease. A farm expert said that there could be 4,000 cases in a few months.

The latest outbreak is worse than the 1967 one and different in nature. The one Britain (and the world) is facing now is more widespread (making containment next to impossible) and it is carried more by sheep than cows.

Argentina reports 55 confirmed cases of the disease with 36 suspected cases being looked at. Today Germany, also, is eyeing a farm suspiciously.

Many farmers in Canada are calling for the Calgary Stampede to be called off because of the international visitors that may carry foot and mouth to their animals. Farmers have vowed to refuse having their animals take part in the event.

Sometimes I wonder if some of the "slaughter all of the livestock" instructions that Israel got weren't all that draconian compared to what's happening now.

Perhaps the earth will become one big bar-B-Q. The fire's already been kindled!

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Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in trouble, and always be prayerful. Rom. 12:12 NLT


Re: Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41822
03/25/01 12:36 PM
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Andrew Marttinen  Offline OP
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On the BBC site they showed a church sign saying "no services because of foot and mouth disease." This is something that's closing churches because the disease can be passed on wherever people are assembled.

My fear is that when foot and mouth enters the US, the independent-minded Americans will have showdown after showdown with government officials over "my stuff" versus what might be for the common good.

This, indeed, is an end-time issue if it causes churches to close their doors!

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Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in trouble, and always be prayerful. Rom. 12:12 NLT


Re: Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41823
03/25/01 11:59 PM
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We ahve already had several herds destroyed in NE lower Michigan because of Bovine TB.

If this hits here, it will destroy the meat and dairy industry in the state of Michigan.

The end is nearer than we think.


Re: Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41824
03/28/01 02:17 AM
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Wow guys, I'm gone one week and the whole world goes to pot! I'm amazed how much things have progressed just in this short amount of time. Truly we are very close! Praise the Lord! I am so excited to see our Redeemer! Oh come quickly Lord Jesus.

Wendy
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Maranatha!!!


Re: Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41825
03/29/01 09:48 PM
03/29/01 09:48 PM
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Holland has 10 cases now. One farm is away from where the other outbreaks have been. An official called this "a national disaster."

Business as usual on planet earth...

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Be glad for all God is planning for you. Be patient in trouble, and always be prayerful. Rom. 12:12 NLT


Re: Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41826
03/29/01 10:39 PM
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The news today says that Britain is finally going to begin vaccinating cattle. Maybe they won't have to slaughter so many.

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Re: Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41827
03/29/01 11:11 PM
03/29/01 11:11 PM
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Ummm. Sorry Linda.


Vaccines don't stop spread of farm virus, says report
On day the Blair says UK must return to normal, Army sends in its top general to oversee foot-and-mouth cull
By Steve Connor and Ben Russell
29 March 2001
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Vaccines don't stop spread of farm virus, says report


National Pig Association
An emergency vaccination campaign against foot-and-mouth disease would make no difference to the spread of the disease and may even make matters worse, according to a suppressed government report.

The previously unpublished report, carried out five years after the 1967 foot-and-mouth crisis, found that vaccines would have failed to halt the spread of the virus in four-out-of-five outbreaks and may even have made the situation worse. In the fifth case, the evidence was equivocal about the effectiveness of using emergency "ring" vaccination to stem the spread around an infected area ­ similar to the scheme proposed on Tuesday by the Government and authorised yesterday by the European Commission.

Professor Martin Hugh-Jones, who carried out the study as a researcher at the Ministry of Agriculture's Central Veterinary Laboratory at Weybridge in Surrey, said: "Essentially we picked five outbreaks at random and we found in four cases it made no difference to the number of cases and would have just added to the problems."

Details of the report, which was suppressed under the Official Secrets Act, emerged as European veterinary experts authorised Britain to carry out emergency vaccination of 180,000 cattle in Cumbria and Devon in an attempt to halt the spread of the disease.

Other scientists are also unsure about the usefulness of a vaccination campaign, arguing that vaccinated animals can still incubate the virus, and that all inoculated livestock would in any case have to be culled eventually to keep Britain's "disease free" status.

Embarrassment for the Government intensified yesterday as Mr Blair revealed the vast scale of sheep movements that helped to spread the disease. He told MPs that 1.35 million sheep were moved or exported last month and admitted that previous estimates of the trade had been "an understatement".

He said: "If this disease was incubating then, clearly it has been far more widespread than hitherto thought."

The revelation raised fresh questions over the performance and long-term future of the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food. Nick Brown, the Agriculture Minister, has admitted that the department had little idea of the scale of the national trade in sheep before the outbreak took hold.

Mr Blair's official spokesman admitted the problem was "beyond the expectations that existed at the outset". But he said the Prime Minister believed the right decisions were made based on the advice given at any one time.

The total number of cases rose by 37 yesterday to 728.

William Hague intensified his attack on the Government's handling of the situation yesterday, raising the case of a qualified vet who offered his services but received no response, despite the Ministry's international appeal for veterinary expertise.

Mr Blair launched a major hearts and minds campaign yesterday to persuade tourists that Britain was not closed for business. But his hopes were dashed last night as it emerged that the German Ministry for Cultural Affairs had advised schools to "stop all trips to England within the near future".

The Government is asking embassies and senior business figures to "bang the drum" for Britain at every opportunity amid fears that investment is under threat.

Professor Hugh-Jones, now professor of epidemiology at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge, said that his findings were an embarrassment to the then Conservative government because it had already decided to establish a vaccine bank, which today's Government is now preparing to use.

"The minister of the day decided that he would lay up a store of vaccine. We proved you didn't need to. Like all official secrets, they are not to defend the country, they are to defend the minister," Professor Hugh-Jones told The Independent.

The report was prepared in response to the official inquiry into the major outbreak of foot-and-mouth in 1967-68, which led to the recommendation that the Government should establish a bank of emergency vaccines against the disease.

Professor Hugh-Jones emigrated to the United States in 1978 and is now a co-ordinator on animal diseases at the World Health Organisation. He took part in the inquiry into the outbreak of anthrax at Yekaterinburg in the former Soviet Union, which was later shown to be the result of an accident at a secret biological weapons factory.

Although he emphasised that the outbreaks in his study were smaller than the present outbreak, he would still not recommend vaccination.

"No. I wouldn't in the normal course of events. If you go about the job properly, you can stop these things in their tracks. There should not have been any delays on slaughter," he said.

Professor Chris Bostock, director of the Institute for Animal Health, which runs the Pirbright Laboratory in Surrey where the emergency foot-and-mouth vaccines are stored, said: "Generally speaking the problem with vaccines is that they don't protect completely against infection. They protect against clinical signs so you won't know that an animal has been infected. It can be replicating the virus and acting as a source of infection for animals that haven't been infected," Professor Bostock said.

"The cost-benefit analysis [of vaccination] would have to take into account the fact that you would be diverting people away from culling," he added. "There is an awful lot of misinformation being put out about vaccination being the answer."

(Same jittery fingers, eek.)


[This message has been edited by WendyForsyth (edited March 29, 2001).]


Re: Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41828
03/29/01 11:11 PM
03/29/01 11:11 PM
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Jittery fingers sorry.

[This message has been edited by WendyForsyth (edited March 29, 2001).]


Re: Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41829
03/30/01 02:04 PM
03/30/01 02:04 PM
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Andrew Marttinen  Offline OP
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Remember, the main problem with foot and mouth is economic (buying and selling, as the Bible says). Vaccinating animals will mean that the country that does it will lose their "disease-free" status--very bad in today's free-trade world.

All grown, healthy cattle (90% of the herd) recover from foot and mouth, but the illness is enough to make the animals less productive. This also affects all of the animals around it.

That is why farmers have to shoot their wounded.

It's kind of like sin in the camp. (If you want to bring in a certain book that is full of agricultural metaphors...)

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[This message has been edited by Andrew Marttinen (edited March 30, 2001).]


Re: Foot and Mouth a Worldwide Epidemic #41830
03/30/01 10:48 PM
03/30/01 10:48 PM
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Andrew Marttinen  Offline OP
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There are 149 areas in Argentina with the foot and mouth disease. They have found 81 more cases in the last couple of weeks. Their policy is to vaccinate agressively against the disease--but seemingly to no avail. The US, Canada and the EU are not importing Argentine meat and animal products for now.

There was a scare in the US of foot and mouth in a South Carolina farm that proved to be false, but as soon as the Chicago market exchange heard about it, prices crashed--only to recover later on when the animals were found to be "clean" (even though they were pigs.

This just goes to prove how jittery people are these days...

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