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Re: The Sins of Babylon Laid Open #42171
05/14/02 12:18 AM
05/14/02 12:18 AM
Wendy F  Offline
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I've heard these forums can be addicting Ikan. I had a friend tell me I shouldn't spend too much time on them. What do you think?

Re: The Sins of Babylon Laid Open #42172
05/14/02 12:35 AM
05/14/02 12:35 AM
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Did you mean Friend or friend?

[ May 14, 2002: Message edited by: Ikan ]


Re: The Sins of Babylon Laid Open #42173
05/15/02 12:11 PM
05/15/02 12:11 PM
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No, I don't think anyone would try to pawn off sins in our church as having less deadly effect on the persons involved then other churches. But I wonder whether we see God as winking at sin among us because He has singled us out to be His bearers of His Last Message of Mercy. Their is always a subtle possibilty of this, which secret pride will foster. Here again is what Sister White reveals as related by her grandson (this was all about sexual sins):

"But in a vision given to Ellen White, which she wrote out while at the Abbey home in Brookfield on Sunday, February 12,[1854] she declared:
'I saw the situation of many in our meeting at Oswego. They were in the way of the work of God.... The ax has not been laid at the root of the tree. Those who have indulged in the wicked passions of the heart have been fellowshipped.... God will not look upon sin now (in condoning it) any sooner than He did anciently when Israel sinned. Sins have not been held forth in their sinful character,but have been made to appear as though sins have been lightly regarded by God.

I saw the seventh commandment had been broken by some who are now held in fellowship by the church, and in consequence God's frown is upon the church. This sin is awful in these last days and the church has brought God's frown and curse upon them in regarding this sin lightly.--MS 1, 1854. {1BIO 290.4}
"She referred to the far-reaching effects of the toleration of such sins in the church:
'Said the angel, "This is not the sin of ignorance. It is a known sin, and will receive the awful visitation of God, whether committed by old or young." Never was this sin regarded by God to be so sinful as at present, because God is purifying to Himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.'--Ibid. {1BIO 290.6}
"After writing at length in this vein, she again quoted the words of the angel: {1BIO 290.7}
'Said the angel, "Fearful is the work of the third angel, and awful is his mission. He is to select the wheat from the tares, and bind or seal the wheat for the heavenly garner."'--Ibid.

Well...that's plain talking if I ever heard it. Looks like sexual sins and others too are extra sinful among those who claim to be His peculiar people.


Re: The Sins of Babylon Laid Open #42174
05/16/02 03:35 AM
05/16/02 03:35 AM
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I am sadly inclined to agree as there is either slackness or timidness in this area.

Is it because it has become so acceptable in our society that we are afraid to deal with it ourselves?

I don't really know. I am just wondering why.

This topic may be becoming more of a church issues topic.


Re: The Sins of Babylon Laid Open #42175
05/16/02 12:02 PM
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Bingo and Amen, Daryl! I agree; the entire subject of the sins of Adventists should be on the Church Issues forum and the sins of other faiths avoided altogether. Let Sister White's words be the Elijah, warning others, not us. We assume a role that is not ours.

So that being said, does anyone care to discuss the following Endtime matters?:

1. How the Israeli/Palestinian war is based on false understandings of God's promise to Abraham, by Jews, Christians and Muslims.

2. That even more astounding manifestations of supernatural events will be seen worldwide,and very soon, as prophecied by Sister White.

3. What Muslims believe about the End of Time.

These are pure Endtimes stuff, and real eye openers.

[ May 16, 2002: Message edited by: Ikan ]


Re: The Sins of Babylon Laid Open #42176
05/16/02 04:29 PM
05/16/02 04:29 PM
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You should post those endtime items as new and separate topics.

Unless Linda, feels differently, and she can reopen it if she does, I think it is time to bring this topic to a close.


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