Sorry about the confusion. I was short on time, otherwise I would have included the quote with my post. Here it is:

The Story of Jesus, page 43, paragraph 5
Chapter Title: The Temptation
The sins of the world were upon Him, and His face showed such sorrow and anguish as man had never felt. He was suffering for sinners.

The Desire of Ages, page 116, paragraph 4
Chapter Title: The Temptation
Many look on this conflict between Christ and Satan as having no special bearing on their own life; and for them it has little interest. But within the domain of every human heart this controversy is repeated. Never does one leave the ranks of evil for the service of God without encountering the assaults of Satan. The enticements which Christ resisted were those that we find it so difficult to withstand. They were urged upon Him in as much greater degree as His character is superior to ours. With the terrible weight of the sins of the world upon Him, Christ withstood the test upon appetite, upon the love of the world, and upon that love of display which leads to presumption. These were the temptations that overcame Adam and Eve, and that so readily overcome us.

The Desire of Ages, page 117, paragraph 1
Chapter Title: The Temptation
Satan had pointed to Adam's sin as proof that God's law was unjust, and could not be obeyed. In our humanity, Christ was to redeem Adam's failure. But when Adam was assailed by the tempter, none of the effects of sin were upon him. He stood in the strength of perfect manhood, possessing the full vigor of mind and body. He was surrounded with the glories of Eden, and was in daily communion with heavenly beings. It was not thus with Jesus when He entered the wilderness to cope with Satan. For four thousand years the race had been decreasing in physical strength, in mental power, and in moral worth; and Christ took upon Him the infirmities of degenerate humanity. Only thus could He rescue man from the lowest depths of his degradation.

The Desire of Ages, page 117, paragraph 2
Chapter Title: The Temptation
Many claim that it was impossible for Christ to be overcome by temptation. Then He could not have been placed in Adam's position; He could not have gained the victory that Adam failed to gain. If we have in any sense a more trying conflict than had Christ, then He would not be able to succor us. But our Saviour took humanity, with all its liabilities. He took the nature of man, with the possibility of yielding to temptation. We have nothing to bear which He has not endured.

The Desire of Ages, page 117, paragraph 4
Chapter Title: The Temptation
From the time of Adam to that of Christ, self-indulgence had increased the power of the appetites and passions, until they had almost unlimited control. Thus men had become debased and diseased, and of themselves it was impossible for them to overcome. In man's behalf, Christ conquered by enduring the severest test. For our sake He exercised a self-control stronger than hunger or death. And in this first victory were involved other issues that enter into all our conflicts with the powers of darkness.

This passage demonstrates a couple of things important to this discussion. It clearly shows that Jesus possessed sinful flesh nature identical to ours, and it also teaches that Jesus bore our sins in His body from birth. But Jesus did not experience the wrath of God against the sin He bore on our behalf until He entered the garden of Gethsemane.

Selected Messages Book 3, page 129, paragraph 3
Chapter Title: The Incarnation
His human nature was created; it did not even possess the angelic powers. It was human, identical with our own.

Or are we talking about two separate issues?

Mike

Do you have any Bible texts to illustrate the point?

Yes, I believe all the texts which teach Jesus was tempted in all points like born again believers are tempted imply Jesus bore the burden of our sins in His sinful flesh nature from the moment He was born. Heb 2 and 4, Rom 8:3 and 1 Peter 2:24. Not to mention all the SOP quotes which clearly teach it. And then the fact He didn't begin suffering the wrath of God against the sin in His flesh until He entered Gethsemane clearly says it was in His flesh nature all along from the beginning.

What makes sense to you?

Greetings everyone

Mike, you said,

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What Jesus experienced beginning in Gethsemane and ending on Golgotha was the wrath of God against the sin He inherited when He assumed Adam's fallen nature.

But it wasn't until He hung nailed to the cross that He, for the first time, endured the wrath of God against the sin He bore in His body. It was there all along, from birth, but it wasn't until the cross that God caused Jesus to suffer the wrath of God against the sin in His flesh. God didn't wait until the cross to lay our sins upon Jesus, rather they became a part of Jesus when He was born. But what changed at the cross was that Jesus experienced, for the first and last time, the wrath of God against the sin He had been bearing in His body since birth.

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Where does the scripture teach that the wrath of God was upon Christ? What is the wrath of God?

Jesus said,

Luke 22:53 When I was daily with you in the temple, ye stretched forth no hands against me: but this is your hour, and the power of darkness.
John 14:30 Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.
John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
John 8:37 I know that ye are Abraham’s seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
John 8:40 But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham.
John 19:11 Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin.
John 10:17 Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

Peter said,

Acts 2:23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Peter 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;

Paul said,

Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;
Romans 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Hebrews 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Hebrews 12:3 For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

Shalom

Note, I will be away for three weeks.

John 3:26
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

See also Rom 1:18; 5:9, Eph 5:6 and Rev 11:18 are also examples of what the unsaved must suffer. Jesus took this wrath upon Himself in our place.

Jesus trod the winepress alone from the moment He was born, especially beginning in Gethsemane and and ending on Golgotha.

God's Amazing Grace, page 163, paragraph 2
Chapter Title: Unutterable Loneliness
Through childhood, youth, and manhood, Jesus walked alone. In His purity and His faithfulness, He trod the winepress alone, and of the people there was none with Him. He carried the awful weight of responsibility for the salvation of men. He knew that unless there was a decided change in the principles and purposes of the human race, all would be lost. This was the burden of His soul, and none could appreciate the weight that rested upon Him.

God's Amazing Grace, page 163, paragraph 3
Chapter Title: Unutterable Loneliness
Throughout His life His mother and His brothers did not comprehend His mission. Even His disciples did not understand Him. He had dwelt in eternal light, as one with God, but His life on earth must be spent in solitude. As one with us, He must bear the burden of our guilt and woe. The Sinless One must feel the shame of sin. The peace lover must dwell with strife, the truth must abide with falsehood, purity with vileness. Every sin, every discord, every defiling lust that transgression had brought, was torture to His spirit.

God's Amazing Grace, page 163, paragraph 4
Chapter Title: Unutterable Loneliness
Alone He must tread the path; alone He must bear the burden. Upon Him who had laid off His glory and accepted the weakness of humanity the redemption of the world must rest. He saw and felt it all, but His purpose remained steadfast. Upon His arm depended the salvation of the fallen race, and He reached out His hand to grasp the hand of Omnipotent love.

Advent Review and Sabbath Herald, April 23, 1901, paragraph 13
Article Title: The Great Standard of Righteousness
"The Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, . . . full of grace and truth." But the people He came to save refused to receive Him. They rewarded Him evil for good, and in Pilate's judgment hall He was condemned to death by crucifixion. "Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? This that is glorious in His apparel, traveling in the greatness of His strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save. Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the wine fat? I have trodden the winepress alone, and of the people there was none with me."

The Signs of the Times, June 3, 1897, paragraph 12
Article Title: Gethsemane
"Then cometh he to his disciples, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest; behold, the hour is at hand, and the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners." The storm of the hellish host had in nowise abated, but he who was its subject was strengthened to meet its fury. He came forth calm and serene. He had borne that which no human being can ever bear; for he had tasted the sufferings of death for every man. "Who is this that cometh from Edom, with dyed garments from Bozrah? this that is glorious in his apparel, traveling in the greatness of his strength? I that speak in righteousness, mighty to save. Wherefore art thou red in thine apparel, and thy garments like him that treadeth in the wine fat? I have trodden the winepress alone; and of the people there was none with me."

The Signs of the Times, August 26, 1903, paragraph 8
Article Title: Our Helper
Only by bearing, on the cross, the punishment for our disobedience could Christ deliver us from eternal death. He became sin for us, that we might be made the righteousness of God in Him. Repentant sinners stand before the Father justified, because the Innocent One has borne their guilt. [Isa 63:1-5 quoted].

What does the fact that Jesus trod the winepress alone actually mean?