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Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47403
05/09/06 01:32 AM
05/09/06 01:32 AM
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You are definitely not God's inspired messenger.


Did you get a personal call from heaven on that? And, who told you He/She only has one? Be careful on what basis you make your decisions.


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Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47404
05/09/06 02:06 AM
05/09/06 02:06 AM
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He/She?


Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47405
05/09/06 03:03 AM
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do any of you know a someone living in polygamy? I do, and I can tell you that the man is happy but the women are not. Can you imagine how the children turn out? That should settle this argument....the results.

Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47406
05/09/06 03:09 AM
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Just thought I would mention that I am NOT impressed with all the snit-pickin' in here....and I am sure that God is not impressed either! It shows great maturity to be able to disagree agreeably.

Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47407
05/09/06 07:18 AM
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I am not happy with the snit-pickin either, however, when somebody responds to the inspired writings of EGW, I must respond with serious questions and concerns, which begs yet another serious question to Darius in conection to this and other topics/posts made by Darius.

Darius, are you claiming to be God's inspired messenger like EGW?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47408
05/09/06 10:41 AM
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do any of you know a someone living in polygamy? I do, and I can tell you that the man is happy but the women are not. Can you imagine how the children turn out? That should settle this argument....the results.


Do you know any monogamous marriages where the results are an absolute disaster? Do you judge monogamous marriages by those examples? Some errors of logic are just too obvious for us to continue making them.


Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47409
05/09/06 10:44 AM
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Darius, are you claiming to be God's inspired messenger like EGW?


Daryl, test every idea that comes to you. Remember, every human makes mistakes and you cannot know when they will make them.


Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47410
05/09/06 10:45 AM
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He/She?


What problem does that raise in your mind?


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No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47411
05/09/06 02:48 PM
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The Creator never said that serial marriages are less objectionable than polygamy.



OK, I’ll say then that they are equivalent – both involve a plurality of wives. Anyway, what do you say about Matt. 19:9, which Tom quoted? Here Jesus says that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery.

Re: Is "Polygamy" a Sin? #47412
05/09/06 03:24 PM
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1When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.
3Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, "Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?"

4"Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' 5and said, 'For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh'? 6So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate."

7"Why then," they asked, "did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?"

8Jesus replied, "Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."

10The disciples said to him, "If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry."

11Jesus replied, "Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage[c]because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."


It is never a wise idea to use excerpts from a conversation, especially where a specific question is being answered, as the source for dogma. The question was about one wife because that would cover all wives. If a man in Moses' time had four wives he could have divorced one and replaced her with another. Jesus responded in character. One who marries a wife has a responsibility to take care of her. If he could only take care of four wives it would be wrong to take to himself five wives. But what if he divorces one of the four and takes another in her place. How many wives does he now have? They thought that the answer would be four, but it was five because the Creator never accepts divorce. But now one of the wives was not being cared for. That is the context of Jesus' response. In a society where polygamy is permitted (for it is never required) it would be immoral to take one wife or multiple wives that one cannot support financially and emotionally.

Last edited by Darius; 05/09/06 03:31 PM.

Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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