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Re: Fred T. Wright: From God or Not?
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03/18/06 09:29 AM
03/18/06 09:29 AM
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Tammy, I wasn’t a follower of FTW. I was part of the Family Fellowship Movement in Spokane back in the early 80’s.
I never heard of the Family Fellowship Movement. Who headed that one up?
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I suspect you believe all of Jesus’ temptations originated outside of Him, that He was never tempted from within. Did I read you right?
I just answered this one on the thread "Understanding Temptation"...if you don't mind, I won't take the time to repeat it here...
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Another question: Do you believe Jesus was ever tempted to do something inherently evil? For example, was He ever tempted to steal, cheat, lie, murder, break the Sabbath, etc.? Or, do you believe He was only tempted to do things that were inherently right at the wrong time or for the wrong reasons?
I understand there is some kind of teaching out there that says that Jesus' temptations were only of the "good" kind. That is not true...if it were true, then the Bible doesn't mean what it says when it says "He was in ALL points tempted like as we are." No MM, I do not believe that for one moment. Hopefully the answer to the previous question in the other thread will help you to see where I am coming from.
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Do you believe Jesus was ever tempted to do something inherently evil, something that was in and of itself completely wrong, totally self-serving and absolutely selfish?
Absolutely! Satan tempted Jesus with every temptation...but the KEY is, He NEVER found them "tempting". He ALWAYS saw the temptations for what they were. Look at this quote, and notice how Satan saw the temptation and how Jesus saw the temptation:
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He [Satan] asked the Saviour to bow to his authority, promising that if He would do so, the kingdoms of the world would be His. He pointed Christ to his success in the world, enumerating the principalities and powers that were subject to him. He declared that what the law of Jehovah could not do, he had done. {5BC 1083.4}
But Jesus said, "Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." This was to Christ just what the Bible declares it to be--a temptation. Before His sight the tempter held the kingdoms of the world. As Satan saw them, they possessed great external grandeur. But Christ saw them in a different aspect, just as they were--earthly dominions under the power of a tyrant. He saw humanity full of woe, suffering under the oppressive power of Satan. He saw the earth defiled by hatred, revenge, malice, lust, and murder. He saw fiends in the possession of the bodies and souls of men (MS 33, 1911). {5BC 1083.5}
Notice how Satan saw these attractions:
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As Satan saw them, they possessed great external grandeur.
Notice how Jesus saw the very same temptations:
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But Christ saw them in a different aspect, just as they were--earthly dominions under the power of a tyrant. He saw humanity full of woe, suffering under the oppressive power of Satan. He saw the earth defiled by hatred, revenge, malice, lust, and murder. He saw fiends in the possession of the bodies and souls of men.
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Re: Fred T. Wright: From God or Not?
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03/18/06 09:47 AM
03/18/06 09:47 AM
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MM, I just reposted my last post with the answers to your questions over on "Understanding Temptation". I hope you have a blessed Sabbath!
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Re: Fred T. Wright: From God or Not?
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04/05/06 12:34 AM
04/05/06 12:34 AM
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Thank you Tammy for your testimony. After what you went through it is easy to fear anything that you can interpet as in the same boat of the ideas he taught. Now, the "God does not kill" is one half of the truth used against the rest of the truth. But there are studies in what the Bible teaches about how God distroys the wicked that are done by respected scholars such as Lynn Harper Wood, Richard Nies, and Graham Maxwell and not just off the wall people.
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