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Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/04/03 04:04 PM
08/04/03 04:04 PM
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Satan's Rebellion
Signs Of The Times
July 23, 1902
Those who believe on Christ and obey His commandments are not under bondage to God's law; for to those who believe and obey, His law is not a law of bondage, but of liberty. Every one who believes on Christ, every one who relies on the keeping power of a risen Saviour that has suffered the penalty pronounced upon the transgressor, every one who resists temptation and in the midst of evil copies the pattern given in the Christ-life, will through faith in the atoning sacrifice of Christ become a partaker of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. Every one who by faith obeys God's commandments, will reach the condition of sinlessness in which Adam lived before his transgression.
Christ took upon Himself the nature of man, and by a perfect life demonstrated the falsity of the claims of him who constantly accuses those that are trying to obey God's law. And the blood of Christ shed on the cross is the everlasting, uncontrovertible testimony that God's law is as immutable as is His own character. In the day of judgment, when the death upon the cross is seen in all its meaning, every voice will be hushed. Every one will see that Satan is a rebel, and will acknowledge God's wisdom, justice, and goodness; with one accord declaring, "Just and true are Thy ways, Thou King of saints."
[ August 05, 2003, 12:01 PM: Message edited by: Avalee ]
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Re: Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/04/03 07:40 PM
08/04/03 07:40 PM
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Avalee,
Who is the author of this quote that you posted here?
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Re: Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/04/03 10:37 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Avalee:
[QUOTE][b]Satan's Rebellion
This article offered more than it provided. I opened the article anticipating some information on the nature of Lucifer's rebellion only to find that there was barely a mention of it, if any. I was sorely disapppointed.
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Re: Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/06/03 02:12 AM
08/06/03 02:12 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Darius:
quote:
Originally posted by Avalee:
[QUOTE][b]Satan's Rebellion
This article offered more than it provided. I opened the article anticipating some information on the nature of Lucifer's rebellion only to find that there was barely a mention of it, if any. I was sorely disapppointed.
Darius I am so sorry that you missed the real reason for the post and that the title misled you. I put the same title that was given to it in the Spirit of Prophecy. So I have changed the name for you. ![[Thank You]](graemlins/thanks.gif) Thank you for bringing this to my attention. ![[Smile]](images/icons/smile.gif)
And I am also sorry that you did not get much out of the complete quote about about Satan's rebellion. It is there, but maybe not the part you were looking for. I believe that is maybe in the book Patriarch and Prophets, I can not remember what book has Satan's fall given in more detail. Let me know if you can not find it.
But the main thought I was thinking of was the part where we who in faith obey all God's Commandments will reach a condition of sinlessness in which Adam lived before his transgression. This is good news and praise God for giving us the good news by His Prophet, Ellen G. White. Amen. Again I am very sorroy that you would be disappointed in any of God's Words to us.
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Re: Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/06/03 02:15 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Daryl Fawcett:
Avalee,
Who is the author of this quote that you posted here?
Daryl I guess I just assumed everyone here knows that when it is written back in 1902 that it will be the Spirit of Prophecy, written by God's prophet, Ellen G. White. I will try to remember that there might be those who do not know that. My mistake. Thanks for reminding me. At least I assume that is what you mean. I know that you know that is was from the Spirit of Prophecy. ![[Big Grin]](images/icons/grin.gif)
Satan's Rebellion
Signs Of The Times
July 23, 1902
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Re: Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/06/03 02:17 AM
08/06/03 02:17 AM
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The gospel saves from sin in this present age. I hope this is a surprise to no one. It is very good news indeed!
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Re: Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/06/03 02:57 AM
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Amen Larry is it good news indeed. What a peace we have when we allow God to work in us to perfect our character into the likeness of Jesus' Character. Yes, this is good news indeed. God leaves no one in the dark about what it takes to have eternal life. Amen
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Re: Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/05/03 03:22 PM
08/05/03 03:22 PM
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Truth! We may in this lifetime reach the condition of sinlessness which Adam and Eve enjoyed in the Garden before their Fall. But when? the moment we are born again or after years of overcoming so-called unknown defective traits of character?
It's important to remember that Adam and Eve were no more than mere newborn babes in Christ when they fell. Which is exactly what we are the instant we're born again. Which is also how Jesus began as a human. I believe we begin at the instant of rebirth in the same condition of sinlessness Adam and Eve and Jesus began at birth.
1 Peter
1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
2:1 Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,
2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord [is] gracious.
John
3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
1 John
3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
3:7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[ August 05, 2003, 04:28 PM: Message edited by: Mike Lowe ]
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Re: Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/05/03 10:08 PM
08/05/03 10:08 PM
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When will this state of sinlessness be reached?
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Re: Can we reach the condition of sinlessness?
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08/06/03 01:32 AM
08/06/03 01:32 AM
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S.D.A. Bible Commentary Vol. 6----CT- Ephesians
-PG- 27 (John 14:15). Reaching the Condition of Sinlessness. --Those only who through faith in Christ obey all of God's commandments will reach
the condition of sinlessness in which Adam lived before his transgression. They testify to their love of Christ by obeying all His precepts (MS 22, 1901).
In Heavenly Places-- Freedom Through Christ
-PG- 146
Those who believe on Christ and obey His commandments are not under bondage to God's law; for to those who believe and obey, His law is not a law of bondage, but of liberty. Everyone who believes on Christ, everyone who relies on the keeping power of a risen Saviour that has suffered the penalty pronounced upon the transgressor, everyone who resists temptation and in the midst of evil copies the pattern
given in the Christ life, will through faith in the atoning sacrifice of Christ become a partaker of the divine nature, having escaped the
corruption that is in the world through lust. Everyone who by faith obeys God's commandments will reach the condition of sinlessness in
which Adam lived before his transgression.
Selected Messages Book 1- Tempted in All Points Like as We Are -PG- 256
Sinlessness of Christ's Human Nature
In taking upon Himself man's nature in its fallen condition, Christ did not in the least participate in its sin. He was subject to the infirmities and weaknesses by which man is encompassed, "that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses" (Matt. 8:17). He was touched with the feeling of our infirmities, and was in all
points tempted like as we are. And yet He knew no sin. He was the Lamb "without blemish and without spot" (1 Peter 1:19). Could Satan in the least particular have tempted Christ to sin, he would have bruised the Saviour's head. As it was, he could only touch His heel. Had the
head of Christ been touched, the hope of the human race would have perished. Divine wrath would have come upon Christ as it came upon Adam. Christ and the church would have been without hope.
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