James,

Every time one speaks of the law you equate it to trying to earn salvation. Is the law and grace so diametrically opposite as you put it. If you are genuine then the law will be manifested through your life and that includes the 4th commandment. This doesn't mean that the law is the means to salvation. For your description of salvation to really work out you will have to delete significant portions of the scripture both in the old and new testament. You never answered my question but rather you re-interpreted it and answered it in your own terms. If by being saved the law is completely obliterated, how will we know when we fall into sin? On what basis will we repent and confess? If the law doesn't apply then what it means is that we are sinless and therefore don't need a savior (after all the law defines what sin is). Careful reading of the Bible will reveal that the law was never done away with, it is written in our hearts. Could it have been written in our hearts one commandement less? We know that Jesus' law is "Love Your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your strength" and "Love your neighbor as yourself" which encompasses the Law Given to Moses at Sinai. If the law could have changed Jesus would have said so, but on the contrary He said he didn't come to abolish it. Paul also said by faith we don't make void the Law but instead we establish it. Can we establish the law by taking the law lightly or outrightly trampling on it? Not anywhere in the gospel of Jesus but in another gospel. As I told you the law is not a means to getting salvation but neither was it abolished, if it was please show where in the Bible.

Blessings,
Edwin