Hi, Folks,

I wish I had more time to make replies. But let me take this opportunity to say something since this touches an area I am working on.

The question we need to ask is whether science and the Bible are in disagreement, not from a literary, coloquial manner, but from a scientific perspective? When we weed out all literary expressions like sunset, Jacob's understanding of how animals became speckled, etc., we find that there is no contradiction between the Bible's message to humanity and science. The Bible is not a book on science. It has to deal with God's plan of redemption primarily. I would say every scientist today speaks of the "sunset" today in either talks, or in writing. Does this make them unscientific?

Because the Bible writers use the expression sunset (like us today), does this make the Bible unscientific? We must first understand how to separate the writers' views from the overal Biblical message. The onus would be on people to show clearly where the Bible contradicts facts of science if these people think that the Bible contradicts science. After that we must next study these apparent contradictions, if any, to see whether it's a matter of faulty interpretation or actual contradiction.

These are just a few thoughts. By the way, anyone knows when the sun sets this afternoon?!Take care.

Ron.

At the risk of a lot of negative feed-back, I'll refer people to the Pinkoski and the Wyatt Museum Wyatt Museum web sites -- these sites offer archaeological evidences gathered to substantiate various discoveries including the cities of the plain (i.e., Sodom & Gomorrah), the Red Sea crossing site, the location of Mount Sinai (in Arabia), etc. The Wyatt Museum web site shows the latest excavation and scientific data gathered to verify the discoveries.

Recently the discoveries have been promoted on Prophecy in the News television show and have been featured on Dateline NBC. There have been some scientists who have taken a hard look at the evidences and agree that there is enough there to take the discoveries seriously.

[Since I've had many negative experiences putting out the above information I would like to close with the following: It would not be appropriate to clutter this thread with denegrating remarks about the man whose field work is featured on the web sites. For those kinds of remarks, I suggest you start another thread.]

Sandra:

I have no intention of getting into a discussion of Ron Wayatt, his work, and what he has left the world after his death. Over the years that this discussion has gone on, I have largely kept out of it.

However, you raised the issue of Ron, his work and ministry. You did so in a general area of MSDAOL that is open to the general public. You did so in an area deveoted to scientific evildence for the Bible.

As you have done this, it is very appropriate for others to comment on their perception of whether or not Ron Wyatt's work provides scientific evidence to support the Bible. That is appropriate, and it is appropriate to do so in this thread.

Again, I have largely stayed out of this ongoing (for years) discussion. But, I will simply say that there are many who do not believe that Ron Wyatt has been able to provide secientific evidence to support the Bible. It is appropriate for me to say that as you has stated that there are those who beleive that he has provided scientific evidence to support the Bible (you mentioned those who support him).

Once you make your comment, it is then appropriate to state the other view. That is only fair, and informative to those posting here who may not be aquainted with the issues.

Gregory, it's true that there are both supporters and critics of Ron Wyatt's work -- but to a large degree the critics have not completely researched Ron's material. This thread is for the discussion of "scientific proof" for the Bible, and that is exactly what the Swedish scientist Lennart Moller has done regarding his evaluation of Ron's discoveries! Approximately 2 years ago Lennart Moller published a 320-page hardcover book entitled "THE EXODUS CASE" wherein he closely investigated and tested Ron's claims -- Lennart Moller is a Christian who works at the Karolinska Institute at the Medical University of Stockholm, and the only reason that his book was printed is that all of Ron Wyatt's claims HAVE been verified by scientific testing and logical exogesis of the Bible!

Lennart Moller has also prepared a video entitled "THE EXODUS REVEALED" wherein he has used an underwater sub camera to film the coral-covered chariot wheels in the Gulf of Aqaba, and this video was produced by the CAMPUS CRUSADE FOR CHRIST organization and has been promoted by several ministries including THE FRIENDS OF ISRAEL GOSPEL MINISTRY and the PROPHECY IN THE NEWS television ministry -- so the current fact of the matter is that Ron Wyatt's discoveries ARE being investigated by diligent and intelligent scientists and believeres and these people are seeing Ron's material as being a total blessing!

I myself worked with Ron for 10 years and I managed his 1st museum that was located in Gatlinburg Tennessee from 1994-1996 -- and I have personally discussed this material with thousands of people, and my website contains an overview of the evidence for the discoveries and the latest updates, etc.

Jim:

I have personally spent much time in reading websites favorable to Ron Wyatt. As I said, I have said very litle as to what I think.

My point is that when you and your wife make statement here in reard to Ron's discoveries scientifically supporting the Bible, it is only fair to allow others to challenge this. It is only fair to allow others to challenge this in the same thread where you have made those statements.

I do not say this because I want a forum where I can post my opinion. If I had wanted to do that, I would have done it a long time ago. I prefer to let you and your opponents "Duke it out", and I do not mean that in a critical way.

I personally think that you are articulate enough that you can state your position well. I think the same for many of those who oppose your conclusions. My comments are not generally needed as something that would throw additional light on the subject, and has not generally been said by others.

But, I do think that when you come to this thread, and make your comments, you can expect others to challenge you. It is only fair to allow them to psot their challenges in the same thread where you have made your comments. It is not fair to expect them to go to another thread.

That is the focus of my comment. My focus is not whether or not Ron Wayatt was correct in his claims.