What are the wages of sin? Death. It matters not if it happens right then at the sin or a thousand years thereafter, it is still sin that caused the death.

Darius your reasoning that something is not valid because it was written long ago in another language is close to blasphemous. What you are saying is that God cannot protect His Holy Scripture down through the ages. That is limiting the power of the Creator of the universe. And it's also an excuse some people use that wish to pick and chose what scripture is valid. It's a view that puts human reasoning above God's word. This is dangerous ground you tread Darius. If you can't trust the word of God how can you trust God? If you cannot trust His Word the next logical step is to say there is no God. Darius, be very careful.

Redfog

If Adam and Eve had never sinned. God warned them if they sinned they would die. They sinned, and they died. How is the serpent not lying in this scenario?

Darius

That Adam and Eve would NOT have died had they not sinned IS the issue. A death sentence that takes 70 years to complete is no sentence for humans only becourse the average human is about to die at that age anyhow. A death sentence to be carried out within 70 years would have been feelt and noticed by Adam who would have had his lifespan cut with some 90%. Its all in its proper perspective.

/Thomas

The argument that a death sentence that is carried out decades after it was pronounced could also be used to prove that USA do not carry out any death penalties since the convicts are imprisoned for 10-20 years before executed. I guess such a conclution would make some people happy..

/Thomas

Redfog, be careful how you read. I never said anything was invalid. It is this tendency to read into what we read what we already have in our minds that causes loads of problems. And the selective way in which it is allowed to happen here says volumes.

After reading the faulty reasoning used here it is no wonder that there is a fear of the gift of logic and reason. We can only hope.

Yes, it is an issue as this is the basis on which you said the serpent/devil didn't lie.

Darius, as usual, your posts do not make any sense, but are rather confusing, almost all of the time, as all you do is go around in circles, which doesn't make for good communication between you and any of us, therefore, I wonder what your purpose is in posting at MSDAOL?

Daryl, what is confusing about the fact that we, as part of the human race, have all been saved. Just because I refuse to run off behind every rabbit you guys throw out there in the hope of scoring points you decide to say I am confusing. That is all fine and dandy. The truth remains. You are free to hold on to your theology.