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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/17/06 05:51 PM
09/17/06 05:51 PM
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What's wrong in this situation?
What good did their works do them here?
What was lacking?
What role did faith play here?
What role should faith play?
What role should works play?
What is wrong in the situation is not knowing God. To know God is eternal life. We know God through His Son.
A nice definition for faith I've heard is a heart appreciation of the love of God, especially as revealed at the cross.
Faith is not simply mental assent, but our entering into a relationship with the living God. When we believe in Christ, we are converted. Our conversion involves a writing of the law in our hearts and mind, which is to say that our goals and desires become aligned with God's. Instead of desiring to live for self, we desire to live for others, primarily God. There is a complete change of focus.
Our works simply testify to our faith. We all have faith in something. As a man thinks in his heart, so is he. What we say, what we do, is the result of what we think. These things that we say and do are our works, which testify to what we think.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/17/06 07:07 PM
09/17/06 07:07 PM
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/17/06 07:26 PM
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Sunday's study says that "the Bible is clear that there is a judgment and that this is a judgment by works, a judgment where our works come under scrutiny. (After all, what is a judgment without such a scrutiny?) Remember, Jesus said that we shall give an account of "every idle word" (Matt. 12:36). Every idle word? And is this not the same Lord who said that the "hairs of your head are all numbered" (Matt. 10:30), who knows when a sparrow falls to the ground (Matt. 10:29), and who said in His Word that He shall bring "every work into judgment, with every secret thing" (Eccles. 12:14)? Every work? Every secret thing? Thus, the whole idea of a scrutiny of works, an investigation in judgment, is biblical."
In other words, salvation by grace through faith and judgment based on works, are biblical.
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/18/06 08:05 AM
09/18/06 08:05 AM
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Seems to me that if James speech on works is to be discussed, the passage ought to be lifted into the discussion. Here goes. Quote:
14What good is it, my brothers, if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save him? 15Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it? 17In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
18But someone will say, "You have faith; I have deeds."
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by what I do.
19You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
20You foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is useless[d]? 21Was not our ancestor Abraham considered righteous for what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith and his actions were working together, and his faith was made complete by what he did. 23And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,"[e] and he was called God's friend. 24You see that a person is justified by what he does and not by faith alone.
25In the same way, was not even Rahab the prostitute considered righteous for what she did when she gave lodging to the spies and sent them off in a different direction? 26As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.
Off topic but Ill ask anyway. What does the following mean for us today?Quote:
7Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. 8Come near to God and he will come near to you. Wash your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. 9Grieve, mourn and wail. Change your laughter to mourning and your joy to gloom. 10Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.
11Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it. 12There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you—who are you to judge your neighbor?
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/18/06 01:45 PM
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Yes, Thomas, faith without corresponding works, is dead faith, which goes to show the importance of works as the resulting proof our profession of faith in Christ. I think this type of works is the same as fruits. Quote:
Mat. 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Fruits = Works.
Works = Fruits.
This is why The Judgment is based on works (fruits), and not simply on our profession.
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Re: Lesson Study #13 - The Gospel and JUDGMENT
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09/18/06 01:48 PM
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From Monday's study: Quote:
Central to our theology as Seventh-day Adventists is the sanctuary, both the earthly as a model of the plan of salvation and the heavenly as the place where Jesus is now ministering in our behalf the merits of His atoning death. We as Adventists believe—based on (1) the earthly sanctuary model, (2) the book of Hebrews, and (3) the prophecies in Daniel—that since 1844 Jesus has been in the Most Holy Place, where the judgment, clearly seen in Daniel 7, is now taking place.
Seeing that this belief, or doctrine, is biblically based, as proven from our studies so far this quarter, why is it that the SDA Church is the only church that believes in and teaches this truth?
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