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Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
#79698
09/30/06 01:20 AM
09/30/06 01:20 AM
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It seems that MSDAOL has been labeled by at least one person as a super conservative forum.
I really do not like labels like liberal, conservative, or somewhere in between.
I prefer that MSDAOL be labeled as seeking to do the will of God in both word and deed/action. If that's being super conservative, then so be it.
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Re: Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
#79699
09/30/06 01:21 AM
09/30/06 01:21 AM
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As you see, I created a POLL to find out how you all see MSDAOL.
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Re: Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
#79700
09/30/06 01:51 AM
09/30/06 01:51 AM
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That's an interesting observation. Conservative has to do complete with one's frame of reference. I would imagine some consider me to be quite liberal because I hold views which are out of the mainstream. However, I whole-heartedly believe in the Spirit of Prophecy, and often quote the pioneers to make my points, so I consider myself to be conservative.
There are those here who believe Christ was created. Some of these, most probably, also rely heavily on the pioneers to substantiate their view, so they most likely consider themselves to be conservative.
I think everyone here believes in the Bible. For the most part, people who post seem to believe in the Spirit of Prophecy, but there are a few who don't. Those who don't would probably consider themselves to be conservative because they believe in the Bible.
I'm guessing few would label themselves as liberal, although others would.
For example, on the humanity of Christ, I would consider those who hold to the pre-fall view to be liberal, but I don't any of those who hold this view see themselves this way.
It's an interesting question. It seems to me there is a pretty wide range of views presented here. There are views here I've never seen before. Rosangela's views on temptation, Mark's on election, Mike's on several things. I'm sure mine on some issues, as seen by others. Given the wide diversity of opinions expressed here, characterizing the forum as "super-conservative" seems to me to not be very accurate.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
#79701
09/30/06 10:12 AM
09/30/06 10:12 AM
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Very interesting observations in your post.
It's also interesting to see the results of the POLL so far.
It would be interesting to also hear other's thoughts on this POLL Topic.
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Re: Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
#79702
09/30/06 01:11 PM
09/30/06 01:11 PM
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It's funny. On the now closed TRO (at least for now) I was accused, in a nice sort of way, of being liberal, and in my church I'm considered somewhat liberal. However among my academy friends who live in the Atlanta Georgia area I'm very conservative. Weather you consider someone or something (like MSDAOL) lib or con it's all from a perspective of what you consider yourself, as Tom pointed out.
I also find many times weather or not a person is considered liberal or conservative it's based on only one or two things: Sabbath observance and/or their view of Mrs. White.
I would never call this forum either super conservative or super liberal. I some respects it might be called somewhat conservative and somewhat liberal. However I agree with Daryl, it's really about a search for the will of the Creator. In other words the search for Truth.
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Re: Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
#79703
09/30/06 04:14 PM
09/30/06 04:14 PM
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It seems to me that most people use the labels "liberal" and "conservative" to distinquish between those SDA members who hold to all 28 fundamental beliefs (con) and those who do not (lib). Perhaps it would be better if we used these definitions rather than labels. If so, then I believe MSDAOL strives to uphold the 28 fundamental SDA beliefs. Whereas it would appear that most forums are not as jealous to do the same. Such cites do not interest me in the least.
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Re: Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
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10/01/06 11:24 AM
10/01/06 11:24 AM
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It seems impossible to have a clear definition. I have a tendency to define a Super Conservative as a person who has discovered a certain section in the writings of Ellen White that fits in with his pre-conceived views, and he considers that person a liberal who discovers a more balanced view elsewhere in her writings.
This is based on my childhood upbringing. One of my parents was such a super conservative. The other one read all of the writings of Ellen White and taugsht me to be what I would define as a true conservative.
When my super conservative parent faced death, only repentance and a renewed relationship with the Lord was what assured salvation. Forgiveness was asked of people who had been dealt with in an Unchristian way, and this brought peace and joy and longing to see the face of Jesus at the resurrection. And he died in the middle of a prayer. This is one of the greatest experiences in my life.
Last edited by Johann; 10/01/06 11:31 AM.
"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
#79705
10/01/06 03:10 PM
10/01/06 03:10 PM
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The results of the POLL are still very interesting and most revealing as to how MSDAOL appears to those of its own members who have voted so far.
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Re: Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
[Re: Daryl]
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10/17/06 03:37 PM
10/17/06 03:37 PM
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What are the results of the poll thus far? Unless at least 30 persons have participated, the results cannot be considered statistically significant. How many have voted?
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Re: Is MSDAOL A Super Conservative Forum?
[Re: Servant]
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10/17/06 04:41 PM
10/17/06 04:41 PM
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I voted Maybe because there was no choice for both.
I don't read religious issues on other forums. This forum has both views presented, but not the bickering that goes on at the other forums.
Conservative and Liberal are in the eyes of the reader. I appreciate the presentation of Scripture and Spirit of Prophecy and not hearing opinions of those that have their own made up version of Christianity.
On the other forums, I stay away from religion and politics. Other than that, the other forums are MEAN in my opinion. In fact, one is so mean, it turned me mean. There I now stick with Humor, prayer requests and only check out certain topics.
What is conservative?
What is Liberal?
What is Main Stream.
The greatest want of the world is the want of men; men who will not be bought or sold, men who in their inmost souls are true and honest, men who do not fear to call sin by its right name, men whose conscience is as true to duty as the needle to the pole, men who will stand for the right though the heavens fall. {Ed 57.3}
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