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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: Rosangela]
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01/21/11 08:30 PM
01/21/11 08:30 PM
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If the last 30-50 years have been pretty calm, this time is over.
So now we're back to what it was like 30 years ago? Was there some turning point that started 30 years ago which made disasters reduce in intensity? Were people 30 years ago saying how the end is near, but now for 30 years, nothing happened? How do you know we still aren't 30 years out as it was 30 years ago?
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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: kland]
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01/21/11 09:41 PM
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All I said was, if things were calm, they are no longer - since we are having so many disturbances in nature. And it seems things will not get any better.
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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: Mountain Man]
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01/21/11 11:30 PM
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I am looking at these verses one verse at a time and editing this post as I do this. The prophecy of Daniel 11:40 was fulfilled in part by France in 1798 and then by Turkey against the French in 1799. I would also say that Daniel 11:41 was fulfilled when France had conquered "the glorious land" from the Turks and later lost it again to the Turks. Now on to verse 42. "The prophecies of the eleventh of Daniel have almost reached their final fulfillment." Mar 25.
As of the time Ellen wrote, the unfulfilled aspects of Dan 11 are:
11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
11:41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many [countries] shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, [even] Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
11:42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
11:43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians [shall be] at his steps.
11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
Last edited by Daryl F; 01/22/11 12:34 AM. Reason: 1st Edit re verse 41.
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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: Rosangela]
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01/22/11 01:22 AM
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Natural disasters and weather related calamities have been waxing and waning since the fall of A&E. So, what's new? Wars and rumors of war continue to plague the world. So, what's new? False prophets and false christs abound. So, what's new? The SDA church is wallowing in laodicea. So, what's new? The SDA church is still failing to grasp the significance of 1888. So, what's new? The frequence and intensity is increasing. This is new. These are warning signals to those who wish to heed them. About Laodicea, I would say, "Yet I have reserved seven thousand in Israel, all whose knees have not bowed to Baal, and every mouth that has not kissed him" (1 Kings 19:18). There is always a remnant in whose heart God is enthroned - an Israel within Israel. Be sure to be part of this remnant. Amen!
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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: Mountain Man]
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01/22/11 01:25 AM
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Daryl, are you basing your comments on Uriah Smith's D&R?
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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: Mountain Man]
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01/22/11 01:28 AM
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Yes, I am, which I have on E-Sword for easy referencing and reading.
From what I have read there, I can also see where Daniel 11:42 has also been fulfilled.
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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: Rosangela]
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01/24/11 07:46 PM
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Of the 16 "disasters" listed by Rosangela, not one of them in any category prophecied in the Bible. Scripture talks about signs in the sun, moon, and stars, earthquakes, famines, wars, and rumors of war. (Did I miss any?) No floods, no snowfall, no drought, no record rainfall.
We can't go adding whatever we want to Scripture, and then claim fulfilled prophecy.
Besides, no one has yet convinced me that the world is getting worse in any category.
"All that is Gold does not Glitter, Not all who Wander are Lost." (J.R.R.T.)
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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: JAK]
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01/25/11 12:47 AM
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The “disasters” I mentioned have to do with climatic disturbances. In Luke 21:25, 26 Jesus mentioned astral phenomena, widespread fear, and disturbances in the oceans. It is well known that disturbances in the oceans can both cause climate variability and be caused by climate changes. So, you are entitled to your opinion, however I see climatic disturbances as related to the signs of Christ’s coming. I’m not claiming that the “disasters” I mentioned are a fulfillment of prophecy, but they seem to be a sample of what is going to happen, which will leave “men fainting with fear and with foreboding of what is coming on the world”.
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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: Rosangela]
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01/25/11 04:57 AM
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The disturbances in the oceans also seem to have ended a persistent draught in Australia. First there was too little water => end of time sign, then there was too much water => end of time sign. Is it so that any weather pattern for western Australia which keeps it different from the green hills of Ireland is a end time sign?
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Is it Just Me or is Nature MESSED up?
[Re: vastergotland]
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01/25/11 10:27 AM
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Anything which greatly departs from the normal patterns of nature for a given region is "unpredecented," a word which has been frequently employed to describe the phenomena which have been happening as of lately.
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