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Re: Lesson Study #2 - Nothing New Under the Sun [Re: asygo] #83763
01/09/07 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: asygo
Pastor Johann,

I didn't quite understand what you were saying about the falls. What "power" are you talking about? Power generators in the falls?

I think Ecc 1:2-11 is a lament about the lack of purpose or meaning in the various events around us. The water cycle has been that way for a long time, and it will continue that way for a long time. But in and of itself, it has no meaning; it is hebel.

For anything to have real meaning, we have to get past the temporal, and see how they impact the eternal. Consider the sun's rising and setting. I enjoy studying physics and how it keeps the solar system running smoothly. But if I just studied gravity and momentum and how they make the planets move, it would be pretty meaningless. Only as they point me to God do they have true meaning.


Verse 7 speaks of the cycle of water and rivers. Today electric current is generated from the tremendous power from the fall of water in rivers. Generating electricity is an important part of physics. Is it possible to have this point your thought to the Creator?


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study #2 - Nothing New Under the Sun [Re: Johann] #83771
01/10/07 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted By: Johann
Generating electricity is an important part of physics. Is it possible to have this point your thought to the Creator?

Yes, it is possible.


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There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: Lesson Study #2 - Nothing New Under the Sun [Re: asygo] #83793
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Wednesday's section continues from Tuesday's thought in saying that:

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The earth goes on and on; we don't. We are nothing but vapor, hebel These thoughts get to the ultimate dilemma of humanity: We are beings capable of understanding the idea of eternity, of transcendence, of something greater than ourselves, and yet, we see that it's beyond our reach. The sun, the rivers, the wind-all were here before us and will be here long after we return to the dust. We come and go; the rivers, the sun, and the wind remain. No wonder life can seem to be, as Shakespeare wrote, a tale "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

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John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Lesson Study #2 - Nothing New Under the Sun [Re: Daryl] #83794
01/10/07 02:19 PM
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I also like the following quote from Wednesday's section:

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There have been many great thinkers, many great philosophers, with all sorts of elaborate and logical systems, all designed to explain the hard questions of life. But unless they can solve the question of death, they have no answers for the questions of life, for, in the end, all life is swept up in death. And, as one can guess, none of these philosophers has answered the problem (most of them are dead themselves). Only Jesus, by His death and His resurrection, has. Jesus has shown us that death isn't the end and that we, indeed, can one day be alive long after the endless cycles of life on this fallen planet have ceased to exist or even be remembered (Isa. 65:17). If not for that hope, Solomon would be justified in his pessimism.

There's a song we sing often from our Church Hymnal #214 titled, We Have This Hope.


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Daryl smile

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Re: Lesson Study #2 - Nothing New Under the Sun [Re: Daryl] #83919
01/12/07 09:21 PM
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Thursday's section is a continuation of the theme of "all is vanity.....under heaven.......under the sun."

With all this wisdom that Solomon had asked for and obtained, why did he see God's second book as vanity?


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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Re: Lesson Study #2 - Nothing New Under the Sun [Re: Daryl] #83926
01/12/07 10:54 PM
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Is Solomon stating that from his own experience all is vanity - you attain nothing in life - unless you dedicate your life and service to the Creator?

See 1 Cor. 1:20-31.


"Here is a last piece of advice. If you believe in goodness and if you value the approval of God, fix your minds on the things which are holy and right and pure and beautiful and good. Model your conduct on what you have learned from me, on what I have told you and shown you, and you will find the God of peace will be with you."
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Re: Lesson Study #2 - Nothing New Under the Sun [Re: Johann] #83946
01/13/07 02:29 AM
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It seems that Solomon is, at least in that Chapter.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

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