As all the relevant posts didn't move with part 1, I moved the rest into this part 2 topic and closed the part 1 topic.

I hope this isn't confusing.

Let the discussion continue here.

Ah, Ok. You're addressing the part in the prophecy about Christ's dying. Christ would have died one way or another, but it wasn't necessary that Israel be responsible for it. Is that what you are saying? If so, I agree with that.

Yes, that is what I am saying, therefore, even that part of the prophecy wasn't conditional. The way Christ died may have been different, however, He still would have died at the precise time He died on the Cross.

And I believe the prophecies turned out exactly the way they did because God knows the end from the beginning. He did not prophesy possibilities. Instead, He foretold the truth, exactly the way things would unfold in amazing detail.

I agree. In the case of unconditional prophecies, although things didn't need to have happened that way (because man is a free moral agent), God knew they would happen that way, and expressed it accordingly.

Besides, I would point out that, although men can hasten or delay Christ's coming by their behavior, God knows the day and the hour of His coming. God always knows the end from the beginning.

The conditional prophecies, as Jeremiah 18 shows, are the prophecies related to nations (promises and threats), given in order to motivate those nations to turn from their sinful ways and follow God. I don't remember any conditional prophecies in the NT.

Right. Nothing in the NT, the Revelation in particular, is conditional. Everything will unfold exactly the way it is foretold. In other words, the USA will lead the rest of the world in enforcing the MOB, etc.

Mike, where does the line go between assured prophecy and human interpretation of said prophecy?

The "line" goes all over the place without inspired guidance. The Remnant Church is blessed with the Spirit of Prophecy. The book, Last Day Events, provides awesome insights into the mind of God. In the SOP we have a more sure word of prophecy. Without it we are no better off than people who read stuff like The Left Behind series.

Why would He have had to die on a cross? There's nothing magical about a cross, is there? The prophecy just indicates He would die, and gives the timing. It doesn't say anything about a cross, does it?

Sometimes. Sometimes things don't happen as prophesied. So is the conclusion that when the things happen as prophesied, God is not prophesying possibilities, but when they don't, He is? That doesn't really make sense, does it?