I liked those quotes Crater, not out of preference, but out of a balanced view\perspective.
I agree that we need to be on our toes, and more so than ever in these times, cause darkness is falling upon the land, and we know that it is always darkest before the Light.

God Bless,
Will

From what you said, what led you to this conclusion, was that your son asked the question, "Why would Jesus eat something He has asked us not to eat?" Rather than trying to prove to him that Jesus did not eat meat, as clearly the Bible and SOP both say that He ate the fish, and surely He took part in the Passover, too, it would be better to search for a different answer for your son.

From the beginning of time, at certain times, what is right during one time, is not always right at a prior or later time. For instance, circumcision. Obviously, circumcision was not instituted until after sin, and it was done away with at the death of Christ. During that time frame, it was a law that all those who really were following God were circumcised. But today, circumcision is no longer necessary. So, there was a time when circumcision was not necessary, then it was necessary and now, it is not necessary again.

The same situation applies to meat. Before the flood, man was not given any permission to eat meat, clean meat included. But after the flood, man was given permission to eat clean meat, as there was little else to eat, and it was given them for the purpose of shortening their life spans....which it did. Before the flood, man was living 900+ years. Within 10 generations after the flood, man was doing good to make it to 150 years old. That is what a high protein meat diet does, speeds up the metabolism, children come to puberty sooner, reproduce sooner, age faster, and die sooner.

It was not a sin for people to eat meat from the time of the flood to the time when the SOP tells us that it was time to give up meat. If it had been a sin, obviously, Jesus wouldn't have eaten it. But today, it is sin for an Adventist, who has the light on the health message to continue to eat meat -



If it was not sin to eat meat now, it would not be called "an evil example" now.

Interesting situation here.

I quoted from a bible translation I only know as "literal translation of the holy bible" in my e-sword program. Looking up the word for myself in a dictionary, I find that it means "nightwatch" or "vigil". The commentary part says as follows:
So the celebration part is something brought from the psalms... I tend to agree with you here. It would have been better if the word had been translated "nightwatch" or "vigil" as it is supposed to.

Strongs which only give the root of the word has the meanings you wrote about, though the dictionary gives a specific translation of the word as it occurs in this particular context. The root of the word translates into: "watch, guard".

As to your musings considering the ecumenical movement and the catholic church, there are other threads for those questions.

/Thomas

Good morning Tammy,When you have the opportunity to return to my statements you will read "When I entered into the study, I had to learn how to leave my own opinion at the door, as we all do when studying with God."

Also, my sons question came because we had just finished studying how the Israelites where punished in the wilderness. And then we happened across Isaiah, thus was seen a contradiction. And that is what prompted my son's question. And as a mother, I could not answer him, so I set out to be a mom who would be the teacher. During this time, God set out to teach me to use His patience and to stretch my faith into being exercised. Just to have those things happen were such a great blessing.

I know that many disagree with with what I learned, but this is the reason that I implore each to work it out with God, not I. He is after all the source in which ALL truth will come.

Now directing myself to all who read here:

• Scriptures are to agree with one another and we are to search "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:" And through all study we must learn to empty ourselves for my experience has taught me that our sinful nature does cloud our opinions.

There were many things to taken into consideration when I studied this issue out. I also had to review much history. So here are some verses that are in contradiction:

• Isaiah 7:15 "Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good."
• Luke 24:41-43 "And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. And he took it, and did eat before them."

The reason why I posted about the Holidays:

I was speaking with Daryl and he had asked me to post to see where it leads.

With regards to searching for a reason why Daniel made the statement in 10:3...well if you knew my heart you would find a Sister that greatly wanted to share and hoped that it would help to give peace to those who where searching. I have entered into prayer, and I am not done with studying this particular issue out. Who knows how long it will take before the Lord gives me the answer. But I know it must be through the means He has directed me so that I will have a foundation to stand on. If it takes another year, or fifty it will be a great blessing just to have recieved from our Lord.

Also, I am back on my regular schedule and I probably will not be able to give the time as I have done for this past week. So I am hoping that you will find it in your hearts to understand that as a mother I need to give my time to my family first, for I am a firm believer that my family must be my first missionary work. And if there be any who do not understand or disagree with my absence, also I send my apologies for causing you any hardship.

Your Sister in Christ Jesus,
Cheri

The flock at home comes before the flock on the internet. I need to be reminded of that sometimes.

Just a quick thought before I get busy.

I don't recall that scripture says much about the Messiah's diet and I haven't thought to look into it in the past. I suppose I assumed he ate fish. Maybe a "Mediterranean type diet".

The Scriptures gave instruction for the diet of some that had a special work to do. I would expect there to have been some special instruction given for Savior's diet as well as his Mother. As I said I really haven't looked into it, but I don't recall any.