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Re: Bumble Bee Epidemic? [Re: Green Cochoa] #125325
05/11/10 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: Green Cochoa
Regarding the honey, and the "excess" of it, the hive truly does produce an excess of honey.
I have heard that. But isn't it interesting that they would? I mean, why? How would one determine if that's really true?

Re: Bumble Bee Epidemic? [Re: kland] #125327
05/11/10 09:49 PM
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Why do apple trees produce so many apples? Why do squirrels hide more nuts than they need? Why do cows produce so much milk? Why do chickens lay eggs nearly every day when most other birds lay but one clutch a year?

I think it's because God has arranged things this way for our benefit. Those apples are for us. The squirrel has planted the next generation of trees. The bees provide us honey. Cows provide milk. Chickens give us eggs.

God called the land of Canaan, "a land flowing with milk and honey." The Bible also says "My son, eat thou honey, because it is good; and the honeycomb, which is sweet to thy taste."

God provides us these things.

Now, if you want to talk about excess and taking it from the bees, skip the honey...let's talk wax. Wax is very difficult for the bees to produce, and they must consume a lot of honey in order to make it. But we use beeswax for candles and for a great many things. Jesus also ate honeycomb.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Bumble Bee Epidemic? [Re: Green Cochoa] #125355
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All I can think of saying now is,
wow.

Lower case,

wow.

Re: Bumble Bee Epidemic? [Re: kland] #125359
05/13/10 12:51 PM
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Basically, the essence of my last post can be summed up in one word: bounty. God is bountiful. "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth...."

Not sure I understand what you meant, kland.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Bumble Bee Epidemic? [Re: Green Cochoa] #125361
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One point that hasn't been touched on here is the scientific studies linking pesticides containing nicotine as a plausible culprit regarding the drastic changes now observed in bee behavior.

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Re: Bumble Bee Epidemic? [Re: JCS] #125366
05/14/10 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: JCS
One point that hasn't been touched on here is the scientific studies linking pesticides containing nicotine as a plausible culprit regarding the drastic changes now observed in bee behavior.

Considering that nicotine is actually a natural substance (read: organic and occurs in nature), I would be less suspicious of it than I would of all the mosquito control that has been done in recent years. They spray who knows what foul-smelling stuff all over in the air to try to get the mosquitos. Anyone know what they use?

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
Re: Bumble Bee Epidemic? [Re: Green Cochoa] #125369
05/14/10 01:26 PM
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Many things in natural form are inert. When man tinkers with things this often no longer remains the case. Considering the extremely powerful nueralogical effects trace amounts of nicotine has on the human brain, I'm not at all surprised if this stuff messes with the delicate biological functions of bees working to pollonate crops dusted with it.

It's proven that nicotine pesticides damages memory functions of insects (including bees). If a bumble bee can't remember how to get back to the hive how likely is it that it will even survive for more than a day? I'd suspect most of these missing bees have become snack food for hungry birds.

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Re: Bumble Bee Epidemic? [Re: Green Cochoa] #125383
05/15/10 03:32 AM
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Here is what our county uses for mosquito control!

Altosid ALL - an insect growth regulator.
Teknar HPD - a highly selective biological larvicide.
Golden Bear 1111 - a mosquito larvicide oil.

Anvil 10+10 ULV - a synthetic pyrethroid.
Pyrenone Crop Spry - a natural material made from the refined extract of the pyrethrum flower.

Synthetic Pyrethroids For Mosquito Control. (2002 Report) Office of Pesticide Programs United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) "Q. Do Pyrethroids Pose Risks to Human Health? A. Pyrethroids can be used for public health mosquito control programs without posing unreasonable risks to human health when applied according to label. Q. Do Pyrethroids Pose Risks to Wildlife or the Environment? A. Pyrethroids used in mosquito control programs do not pose unreasonable risks to wildlife or the environment. Pyrethroids, when applied at mosquito control rates, are low in toxicity to mammals, and practically nontoxic to birds. However, pyrethroids are toxic to fish and bees."

Large areas such as irrigated pastures may warrant the use of the Districts helicopter using Pyrenone Crop Spray.

Re: Bumble Bee Epidemic? [Re: crater] #125393
05/16/10 09:53 PM
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Thank you, crater. That confirms some of my suspicions. Pity the poor bees, as there are multiple hazards out there for them.

Blessings,

Green Cochoa.


We can receive of heaven's light only as we are willing to be emptied of self. We can discern the character of God, and accept Christ by faith, only as we consent to the bringing into captivity of every thought to the obedience of Christ. And to all who do this, the Holy Spirit is given without measure. In Christ "dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. And ye are complete in Him." [Colossians 2:9, 10.] {GW 57.1} -- Ellen White.
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