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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90306
07/02/07 03:57 PM
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At least wait for the feathers.

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: crater] #90310
07/02/07 06:24 PM
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Why do we always resort to humor when the truth becomes to strong to resist?


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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90312
07/02/07 10:14 PM
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This discussion has been fruitful in some ways, one way being that God first spoke the Ten Commandments to the people in Exodus 20:1 quoted below:
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Exodus 20:1 And God spoke all these words, saying,

God then spoke what the Ten Comandments were, which we see written by Moses from verse 2 to verse 17.

This was followed later on by God's writing them, with His own finger, on tablets of stone.
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Exodus 24:12 And the LORD said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.

The above verse doesn't specifically use the word Ten Commandments. It is implied, but not specifically stated, therefore, we need to read further.

In Exodus 24:18 we read:
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Exodus 24:18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and got him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

What happened during those 40 days and 40 nights can be read from Exodus 25:1 to Exodus 31:17. What is there is in addition to what was written on two tables of stone as stated in Exodus 31:18 quoted below:
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Exodus 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

Once again, the above quoted text doesn't specifically state what was written. They are referred here as the two tables of testimony, but not specifically stated as being the Ten Commandments, therefore, we need to read further.
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Exodus 32:15 And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.

Exodus 32:16 And the tables were the work of God, and the writing was the writing of God, graven upon the tables.

Exodus 32:19
And it came to pass, as soon as he came nigh unto the camp, that he saw the calf, and the dancing: and Moses' anger waxed hot, and he cast the tables out of his hands, and broke them beneath the mount.

Again, the above text refers to the two tables of stone as the two tables of the testimony, which were broken by Moses in his anger, therefore, we need to read further.

Exodus 34:1 shows that these same tables that were destroyed were to be replaced by God:
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Exodus 34:1 And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou didst break.

And Moses did as the Lord said unto Moses:
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Exodus 34:4 And he hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and went up unto mount Sinai, as the LORD had commanded him, and took in his hand the two tables of stone.

Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

This is the first time it specifically says that it was the Ten Commandments that were written on the two tables of stone, which it says were the same words as on the first two tables of stone that Moses had broken in his anger.

In conclusion, that what was written on the first two tables of stone, was also written on the second two tables of stone, namely the Ten Commandments that God spoke to the people in Exodus 20:2-17.


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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Daryl] #90318
07/03/07 11:45 AM
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Thanks for that review, Daryl. Now, let's return to the issue at hand. Why is the second copy so different from what we think is the first copy? What are the implications of that fact.


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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90319
07/03/07 11:57 AM
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Darius,

We know that the ten commandments were written on the tablets. Deut. 5 says which commandments were written on the tablets. Now, where is it written that the commandments that you call the second set are the ten commandments and that they were written on the tablets?

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Rosangela] #90322
07/03/07 01:13 PM
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Rosangela, you are beating around this stuff. You are trying your very best to avoid it. The evidence is before you. If you need to, go over the entire thread again. There has been enough repetition for a lifetime.


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No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90326
07/03/07 01:32 PM
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Could you please be patient with me and answer the question? Just one verse is enough.

Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Rosangela] #90328
07/03/07 01:50 PM
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Ex. 34:27, 28.


Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90330
07/03/07 02:00 PM
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In my review, as you call it, in reference to Exodus 34:28 I said the following:
 Originally Posted By: Daryl Fawcett

Exodus 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

This is the first time it specifically says that it was the Ten Commandments that were written on the two tables of stone, which it says were the same words as on the first two tables of stone that Moses had broken in his anger.

In conclusion, that what was written on the first two tables of stone, was also written on the second two tables of stone, namely the Ten Commandments that God spoke to the people in Exodus 20:2-17.


In His Love, Mercy & Grace,

Daryl smile

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

http://www.christians-discuss.com/forum/index.php
Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)? [Re: Darius] #90334
07/03/07 02:15 PM
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Darius,

After what you call the second set, “then the LORD said to Moses, ‘Write these words, for according to the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.’ So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments” (Ex. 34:7,8).

You said it doesn’t matter who wrote on the tablets of stone, but this provides the answer to the question you are asking. V. 7 says God commanded Moses to write the commands mentioned in Ex. 34, and v. 8 says that the ten commandments were written on the tablets. Now, who wrote on the tablets? God (as Deut. 10:1-5 says) or Moses? If it was God, then the commands God told Moses to write are not the ten commandments. If it was Moses, then you might have a point, but then Moses, in Deuteronomy, would have contradicted what he wrote in Exodus.

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