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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Daryl]
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07/01/07 09:40 PM
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Jesus came to save mankind. That much I do know, whether or not people accept the gift offered to them depends on their faith in believing He is who He claimed to be. Do you think that would be a correct assessment\observation Darius? God Bless, Will
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Daryl]
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07/01/07 09:41 PM
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I don't see how that information aids the discussion. You have introduced something that is not in dispute.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Daryl]
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07/02/07 05:41 AM
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And, Darius, we don't get your agenda either. Daryl, perhaps Darius's agenda has been reveled, as he has slithered around rather then admitting his error. He freely admits that: He isn't here to study. He isn't here to share. We see how; He interjects truth and error. He borders on blasphemy. He attempts to make non-effect the Holy Scriptures.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: crater]
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07/02/07 10:46 AM
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Will, I don't know how to answer your question. You say that Jesus came to save mankind. The obvious question is, "Did He? How much of a success was He at what He came to do?" I like to think that He was a complete success, and in John 17:1-5 He says He was, but after listening to some Christians I am not so sure.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Darius]
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07/02/07 10:48 AM
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Crater, after you are finished your futile attempts to tar me return to the facts at hand. Explain Ex. 34. Why is the second copy of the Ten Commandments so different from what we have always assumed to be the first copy.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Darius]
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07/02/07 10:51 AM
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Well, Darius, why don't you give us your answer to your own question?
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Darius]
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07/02/07 11:04 AM
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Rosangela all you have done is post quotes from the Bible. You have not explained why we have different sets of commands that are entirely different. You say it is simple but you keep avoiding it. Darius, I'm not avoiding anything. We simply don't have different sets of commands. The 10 Cs and a series of other laws (which derive from the 10 Cs) were given on the same occasion. It's all written there in Ex. 20-23. In the account of the second time the ten commandments were given (Ex. 34), Moses didn't find it necessary to repeat all the 10 Cs but, in view of the golden calf episode, repeated some of them and some of the laws which were to make the Israelites a distinct people, separate from the canaanite nations around them. He says they shouldn't worship other gods, the gods of those nations, nor make idols for them (like they had done with the golden calf); their feasts should not be dedicated to the fertility gods of that land but to the Lord; their day of worship should be the seventh day in honor of the only true God, the Creator of heaven and earth; their animals shouldn't be dedicated to other gods but to the Lord, to whom they belonged; and they shouldn't adopt the pagan rituals of the canaanite nations, like boiling a kid in its mother's milk. There are no two sets of the ten commandments and, for those who pay attention to the context of the book of Exodus, this is very clear.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Rosangela]
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07/02/07 11:19 AM
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Rosangela, since Moses said that what he wrote were the Ten Commandments and there seem to be ten principles in that list I fail to see how you can suggest that the list was longer. It would no longer be the Ten Commandments. I prefer to consider what is in the texts than transparent efforts to protect human doctrines and beliefs. Thanks.
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Darius]
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07/02/07 02:09 PM
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Darius, the text says:
"And the LORD said to Moses, 'Write these words; in accordance with these words I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.' And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments" (Deut. 34:27,28).
The problem is that you are interpreting the pronoun "he" of the sentence "and he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments" as referring to Moses, when it refers to God, as Deut. 5:22 and 10:4 show clearly. What Moses wrote was written in a book (Ex. 24:7; Deut. 31:24-26).
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Re: Is God The Real Author Of The Bible (The Scriptures)?
[Re: Rosangela]
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07/02/07 02:19 PM
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Rosangela, it does not matter who "he" is. I have never considered that in my analysis. The bottom line is that the second version is different from what we claim is the first version. There is no need to bring in other side issues. That is of sufficient interest. What accounts for the difference?
Darius A. Lecointe, J.D., Ph.D. No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
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