John 14:21
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

John 15:10
If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

1 John 2:3
And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

1 John 2:4
He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

1 John 2:5
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

1 John 2:6
He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

1 John 3:22
And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.

1 John 3:23
And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 3:24
And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

1 John 5:2
By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

1 John 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Revelation 12:17
And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

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Avalee and whoever else wishes to respond:

Some people say that this is referring to Christ's commandments, not the 10 Commandments.

How would you answer those people?

In 1 John 2:3,4 it's not really clear whether it's talking about commandments of the Son or the Father.

But in 1 John 3:23,24 the "He" is definitely God the Father, since in verse 23 it says "His Son Jesus Christ." So that passage is talking about the commandments of the Father.

1 John 5:2,3 just says "God" generically, so that would be taken to be the Father > Ten Commandments. If the Bible doesn't specifically say Jesus' commandments, it makes sense to take it as meaning the Father's Commandments, i.e. the Ten.

Some more verses illustrating the importance of keeping the Ten:

"Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth." -- John 16:13.

"Thou art near, O Lord; and all Thy commandments are truth." -- Psalm 119:151.

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"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things." -- Philippians 4:8.

"The commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes." -- Psalm 19:8.

"Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." -- Romans 7:12.

"My lips shall utter praise, when Thou hast taught me Thy statutes." -- Psalm 119:171.

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"Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled." -- Matthew 5:6.

"All Thy commandments are righteousness." -- Psalm 119:172.

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"Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham." -- Galatians 3:7.

"Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham." -- John 8:39

"Abraham obeyed My voice, and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws." -- Genesis 26:5.

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"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." -- Matthew 5:18.

"That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." -- Romans 8:4.

"For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God." -- Romans 8:6-8.

"But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ." -- 1 Corinthians 15:57. Amen to that!

Amen John...excellant scriptures. I was afraid when I posted that some of mine might not fit with what you asked...I read your post about 10 minutes before I had to leave to work...so I admit I did not do much of a study...just typed in commandments in my Quickverse and copied some of them...but I can tell you did not do that. Thank you for the versees.

People who say, Now that Jesus lived and died the perfect life and death we are free from the law, and also quick to admit it doesn't mean we are free to break the law.

When you discuss it further with them, and go through the ten commandments one at a time, you learn that the only commandment they believe doesn't have to obeyed is the Sabbath commandment.

So then the study really has to do with whether or not the Sabbath still has to be observed, which eventually involves the great controversy motif.

Mike that is so true. Most people when you take the Ten Commandments one by one only have a problem with the 4th one. That just amazes me...how can you say all the rest are still binding but not one.

Avalee, nothing wrong with doing a quick search and posting results! It's just amazing what Bible/SOP software can do for searching. Things that used to take hours now take minutes.

Mike, your observation about the sabbath is so true. People who fail to grasp the eternal nature of the Ten Commandments seem to think that if a commandment isn't explicitly restated or confirmed in the New Testament, then it isn't binding any more. And most think the 4th commandment isn't restated in the New Testament; that the discussion in Hebrews 4 only refers to entering in to Christ's rest. (As in, "Come unto Me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Matthew 11:28)

But Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi makes an interesting observation:

"Sometimes a word is used only once in the Bible. This makes it necessary to consult its use in extra-Biblical literature. For example, the term sabbatismos ('Sabbathkeeping') is used only in Hebrews 4:9. Recent studies of the use of sabbatismos in extra-Biblical literature have shown that the term is consistently used to denote a literal seventh-day Sabbathkeeping. Thus, the correct translation of Hebrews 4:9 is: 'A seventh-day Sabbathkeeping has been left behind for the people of God.' A correct translation of this text provides a powerful proof of the continuity of Sabbathkeeping in the NT."

http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/endtimeissues/eti_21.html

(see also http://www.biblicalperspectives.com/endtimeissues/eti_78.html )

[ May 25, 2002: Message edited by: John ]

Thanks for all replies.

So far, I see that all have the same answer: YES, obedience to the law does matter for our salvation because it is commanded for Christ believers to keep and do it.

Mike Lowe went deeper with saying that obedience to the law is the fruit of our salvation, because of our faith in Christ, His Spirit empower us and made us able to keep and obey the law.

I will comment on others first and set out Mike for a later reply.

I came to understand that all those who replied the question believe that obedience (or works) does matters to our salvation. Straight to say, that we are not saved by our obedience to the law (only by Christ through faith) but without obedience we will never be in heaven. So, obedience to the law or our works really are so important and might be added to the works Christ has done for us in order we may live eternally in heaven.

What does these verses means to you?

“So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by grace. And if by grace, then it is no longer by works, if it were, grace would be no longer grace” – Romans 11:5,6 (NIV).

“But now the righteousness from God apart from the law, has been made known, to which the law and the prophets testify. This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe. There is no difference: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus” – Romans 3:21-24 (NIV).

“Now when a man works, his wages are not credited to him as a gift, but as an obligation. However, to the man who does not work but trust God who justifies the wicked, his faith is credited as righteousness” – Romans 3:4,5 (NIV).

We will dig and learn the truth together.

In His love

James S.

Daryl.

You are right! All what was written by John was to keep “LOVE that seeks no self” as Christ’s commandments.

Many believes that love=the 10th Cs, but unfortunately they are deadly wrong.

In His love

James S.

Mike.

Regarding Sabbath observation as commanded in the 10th Commandment I will not discuss here but I will open a new topic for this later.

In His love

James S.