Mike.

I knew that you would come up with that passage, because that is the only one written in the Scripture. But please read it carefully and see whether you are right or I am right.

I will comment on that later although I have stated it in some other posts.

In His love

James S.

Avalee.

I just wanted to say that God has the right to do whatever it is He wants to do...He after all is GOD.

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In The Blessed Hope

Avalee

Unquote.

Ah…. Then nobody would like to believe your God if he did whatever he likes without good legal reason. If so is the case, he would be no better than King Nero or Caligula or Hitler.

In His love

James S.

James:

If it is true that God can only act with good reason, it is also true that God's reasons may be beyound our conprehension, and God does not have to act according to what we consider to be good reason.

Freedom from condemnation is one of the central themes in the Bible:

Mat 12:37
For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

John 3:18,19
He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

John 5:24
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

Rom 5:16
And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.

Rom 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

1 Cor 11:32
But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

James 5:12
But above all things, my brethren, swear not, neither by heaven, neither by the earth, neither by any other oath: but let your yea be yea; and your nay, nay; lest ye fall into condemnation.

God can do what ever He wants and wishes to do beause HE is GOD and HE will ALWAYS do what is right.

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In The Blessed Hope

Avalee.

He must proof that against Satan’s claims.

How? By creating man and died for them to gives their life back as the result of Satan’s lie to them. Therefore a legal law is needed in the future to justify God’s actions in saving men.

In His love

James S.

James:

If it is true that God can only act with good reason, it is also true that God's reasons may be beyound our conprehension, and God does not have to act according to what we consider to be good reason.

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Gregory
May God's will be done.

Sure!

But to justify his actions against Satan’s claims and to unmasked Satan’s unrighteousness and sin of rebellion, he must have a legal reason for whatever he did to carry out his plan to unmasked Satan’s unrighteousness and to save men from Satan’s claws.

In His love

James S

Mike.

None of the verses you quoted says about being free from the condemnation of the law in Christ Jesus.

You didn’t reply my answer to your own statement.

In His love

James S.

James, if you don't see the obvious connection and relationship between breaking the law and condemnation, then there's not much more we can discuss.

In Christ we are free from the condemnation of the law on two accounts, 1) Past sins forgiven and forsaken, and 2) Present sins committed unwittingly. Without Christ we are condemned as law breakers.

Without the law there can be no condemnation, which means Satan and the fallen angels, along with all the other unrepentant sinners, will be saved in the New Earth.

[ December 11, 2002, 11:40 AM: Message edited by: Mike Lowe ]