Since God is everywhere, and His light and truth is everywhere, your question doesn't make sense to me.

The Bible teaches that the wages of sin is death, the sting of death is sin, the soul that sins shall die. The Spirit of Prophecy says:





There's many others. There's hardly a truth more established in inspiration than that sin results in death.

But God's omnipresence doesn't mean sinners know and understand the truth, right? God's being everywhere and sinners knowing and understanding the truth are not one and the same thing. So, how does it apply to sinners suffering and dying in the lake of fire?

1. Is sin, in and of itself, enough to cause sinners to suffer and die? Or, is more needed?

2. Must sinners also be made to know and understand the truth before sin can them to suffer and die? If so, which truths?

3. And, how does God cause them to know and understand them?

4. Also, what is it about the combination of sin and truth that causes sinners to suffer and die?

Regarding 1, the wages of sin is death; the sting of death is sin; the soul that sinneth, it shall die. As EGW puts it, death is the inevitable result of sin. It seems to be very clear that death is the result of sin.

Regarding 2, sin causes suffering and death precisely because of the impact it has upon them as the truth becomes known to them in the judgment.

Regarding 3:



Regarding 4, sin causes death as follows:

"The glory of Him who is love will destroy them." From this am I to understand you believe it is the glory of God that destroys sinners in the lake of fire? Or, is sin sufficient, in and of itself, to kill sinners?

What would sin, in and of itself, be? You mean a universe where sin exists only, but not God or God's character or light or truth?

We live in universe where sin and sinners and the glory of God exists. But we don't see sinners suffering and dying the second death. Why not? If sin, as you say, causes sinners to suffer and die, why aren't we dead? What's missing? What will cause sinners to suffer and die in the lake of fire that isn't causing us to suffer and die right now? Which elements must be present in order for sinners to suffer and die the second death?

God veils His glory, and prevents the natural result of sin to occur, which is death.

If God's glory = light, truth, character - are you implying God is currently veiling the truth, and that that is why sinners haven't suffered and died yet?

I think it's clearer to say that God is veiling His glory. Since His glory is His character, there's probably some way to state the same idea in terms of His character. "Veil" seems like a funny word to use with "character." I think "veiling the truth" is definitely not a good choice of words, as "truth" is to open-ended a word in terms of what it might mean.

I suppose one could say that God does not reveal His character in its fullness to the wicked, until the judgment. That sounds OK.

The problem involved with God's revealing His character is that God is good, so a revelation of His character is a revelation of His goodness, which certainly sounds like a good thing, but God cannot reveal His goodness without at the same time our wickedness being revealed. So God reveals His goodness to us a little at a time, in healing doses, so that we are led to repentance, and not despair.

TE: God veils His glory, and prevents the natural result of sin to occur, which is death.... I suppose one could say that God does not reveal His character in its fullness to the wicked, until the judgment.

MM: Like a filter, to reduce the intensity of God's glory? Moses saw the backside of God's glory and lived. However, even such a diluted exposure was enough to cause Moses' skin to shine so brightly that he had to wear a veil to prevent harming others around him. Seems to me, then, that God's glory causes a physical effect which can be painful.