I think the first paragraph is speaking along the same lines. Actually, the second one two, although it's easily misunderstood.

Regarding the difference between your statement and hers, it's the emphasis. Her statement in GC 35, 36 emphasizes that fact that the Jews forged their own fetters, forced the Spirit of God to withdraw, and that their calamity was due to their own action, which led them to be under Satan's control, who has presented his own evil work as the work of God. Your statement doesn't really bring out any of these points, and makes the destruction of the wicked (as I read your intent) as something that God wants or desires to happen. I must admit, however, that I am influenced in my interpretation of things by knowing the many other statements you have made, so that may be coloring my reading of this particular statement of yours.

Given the emphasis you appreciate in the quotes you've posted - where do we see this demonstrated in the earthly life of Jesus? The examples you've already given come short of demonstrating it.

If you don't like my examples, find your own. We know they're there!

Good hunting!

But I don't know they are there. That's why I suspect her statement means something different than you have concluded. Jesus only demonstrated those aspects of God's character and kingdom that we "can know", that our dull minds can grasp and comprehend, which is also what we "need to know" to get saved and to stay saved. Since Jesus did not clearly demonstrate the aspect we're discussing here, it most likely means we are unable to grasp it and that it is not necessary to get saved or stay saved.

Boy, that's reading an awful lot into a really easy to understand statement!



I don't see anything unclear about this, certainly not that Jesus only revealed what we need to be saved.

I think it is your conclusion that must be wrong, that this aspect of God's character was not revealed by Christ. I think the problem involved not properly defining what the aspect of God's character is.

Here is the statement from the SOP we've been discussing:



What aspect of God's character is being revealed here? It is that God's can be forced to withdraw, leaving those from whom He withdraws under the control of the evil one. Surely you should be able to see this principles revealed in the life and character of Jesus Christ as He lived here with us in the flesh.

So, to conclude, I think EGW's statement is very clear as it reads (it doesn't need to be redone), and that if you properly define the aspect of God's character you are interested in, you can find it revealed by Jesus Christ.

I hear you saying Jesus demonstrated the meaning of - The wrath and vengeance of an offended God.

I wasn't thinking this as I was writing, but I agree with what you said ("Jesus demonstrated ....")

Which examples do you have in mind that demonstrate it?

The ones already mentioned, of course. Also there may be some parables which apply. I still haven't thought about it.

I really I am surprised you are willing to cite them as examples since they don't even get close to it, in my book.