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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
[Re: Mountain Man]
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03/12/08 05:08 PM
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A person could be living in polygamy and be born again. This would be an example of a sinful, cultivated habit that the person simply isn't aware of.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
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03/12/08 05:23 PM
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Are you suggesting the Holy Spirit wouldn't convict them otherwise, that He would allow them to live on in ignorance? Do you they read the Bible?
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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
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03/12/08 06:43 PM
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In the Old Testament, people had multiple wives. This was as much of a sin then as it is now, yet many people who followed God were ignorant of this.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
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03/12/08 09:32 PM
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Have any of you read Richard Foster's book "Streams of living water"? The chapter on the stream of holiness is relevant to these discussions on this forum.
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
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I've never heard of it. I take it you read it and liked it?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
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03/12/08 09:49 PM
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I am reading a whole pile of books right now.  Do look it up in your library some day, its an interesting concept.
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
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03/12/08 11:14 PM
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Tom, you seem to be suggesting there are born again believers nowadays, who are abiding in Jesus, who have unknown sinful practices which the Holy Spirit has not yet revealed to them because they aren't ready to face it.
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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
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I wrote this: In the Old Testament, people had multiple wives. This was as much of a sin then as it is now, yet many people who followed God were ignorant of this. This is true, isn't it?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
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Yes.
But did it offend the people around them? Did it cause them to loathe God?
And, why didn't the Holy Spirit reveal it to them? Is it because God was willing, for a time, to "wink" at it?
Are there any unknown sinful practices that God is willing, for a time, to "wink" at nowadays? That is, behaviors which offend people around us, which misrepresent Jesus, which cause people to despise the Gospel?
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Re: Can sinning be overcome....
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03/13/08 06:29 PM
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Could it be that some of the things in our list of sins have more to do with adventisms victorian/puritan herritage than with any biblical view of sin? Obviously Abram and his sons had no concept of sinfullness in having several wives.
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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