This is obvious. Christ revealed all that man can know about God, but there's no reason to think that Christ revealed exactly this and nothing else. That wouldn't make any sense.

Secondly, besides being obvious, we are told by the Spirit of Prophecy that what Christ revealed settled the Great Controversy for angels and unfallen worlds. So Christ didn't simply reveal all that man can know, but, in addition to that, revealed things to holy angels and unfallen worlds.



This doesn't follow.



From EGW:



The GC has been settled. It hasn't ended yet, because of man, but it's been settled for holy angels and unfallen worlds.



No, this idea would not enter my mind. Why would you think we would find something objectionable about God? Your statements didn't address my question, I don't think. I was just curious as to if what I said is how you were interpreting the statement, and why you were saying that not everything that man can know about God was revealed by Christ. IOW, you were making the point that not everything that man will ever know about God was revealed by Christ.

However, I take it you would agree that everything that man can know about God now, at the very least, was revealed by Christ.

TE: This is obvious.

MM: Not to me.

TE: The GC has been settled.

MM: Aren't you leaving out an important quote?

TE: IOW, you were making the point that not everything that man will ever know about God was revealed by Christ.

MM: Correct. Jesus only revealed what we "can" and "need" to know. I'm not buying the idea that He also revealed things unfallen beings needed to know.

What I said regarding the Great Controversy being settled by the cross is true without or without a quote. But since you asked for one, here's a couple:



Another one on a similar theme:





There's simply no reason to think that Jesus only revealed what human beings can or need to know. It's not even possible that He could do such a thing. For example, there are things that angels can see in Christ that we can't see, simply by virtue of the fact that they are angels and we aren't, in addition to being more intelligent than we are.

TE: What I said regarding the Great Controversy being settled by the cross is true without or without a quote.

MM: If all the issues and accusations were "settled" at the cross, why are we still here, why is the GC still going on, why hasn't Jesus returned yet? Also, why haven't you quoted the following:

"Yet Satan was not then destroyed. The angels did not even then understand all that was involved in the great controversy. The principles at stake were to be more fully revealed. And for the sake of man, Satan's existence must be continued. Man as well as angels must see the contrast between the Prince of light and the prince of darkness. He must choose whom he will serve. {DA 761.3}

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TE: There's simply no reason to think that Jesus only revealed what human beings can or need to know.

MM: Why not? It's exactly what she said. "All that man needs to know or can know of God has been revealed in the life and character of His Son. {8T 286.1}

Although the issues have been settled for holy angels and unfallen worlds, man still has not made a decision.



No, it's not. If I say to you, "every state of the U.S. is part of U.S. territory" that's does not mean the same thing as saying "any part of U.S. territory is a state."

She didn't say "Only that which can be known by man about God was revealed."

I suggest you reconsider the following:



This is correct, and should be understandable.

TE: Although the issues have been settled for holy angels and unfallen worlds, man still has not made a decision.

MM: But it isn't settled in their minds. Not yet. Please read the DA 761 quote I posted above. Thank you.

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TE: For example, there are things that angels can see in Christ that we can't see, simply by virtue of the fact that they are angels and we aren't, in addition to being more intelligent than we are.

MM: There is no evidence this is true. Her statement doesn't say so. It simply says Jesus revealed all we can know and need to know about God. She didn't include the angels in this statement.

That quote doesn't say it's not settled in their minds.



Just simple logic and a little common sense is enough to see that what I wrote is true. I gave you a simple example: "All states are a part of U. S. territory" does not mean "All U.S. territory is comprised of states."

That Christ revealed all that man can know simply does not mean, and cannot mean, that Christ only revealed what man can know. I explained one reason why. Angels, by virtue of being angles and not men, can see things revealed in Christ that men cannot see.

I don't know why you're wanting to argue about this. It doesn't really have anything to do about what we were talking about, does it? At any rate, if you can't see this is true, after these explanations, I think we'll just have to drop it.

TE: Just simple logic and a little common sense is enough to see that what I wrote is true.

MM: Tom, this may be enough for you, but please understand it isn't enough for me. I need a plain "Thus saith the Lord" upon which to build my faith and hope.

Also, it is obvious to me in the context of DA 761 that something is not settled in the minds of angels. Yes, they are convinced Satan is messed up and wrong about God, but they still have questions that need to be answered. The fact the GC did not end at the cross is evidence there are still issues and accusations that need to be addressed, that need to be settled. Check it out:

DA 761-763 (selected sentences)

1. The last link of sympathy between Satan and the heavenly world was broken.

2. Yet Satan was not then destroyed. The angels did not even then understand all that was involved in the great controversy.

3. The principles at stake were to be more fully revealed. And for the sake of man, Satan's existence must be continued.

4. Another deception was now to be brought forward.

5. Here will come the last conflict of the great controversy between Christ and Satan.

6. That the law which was spoken by God's own voice is faulty, that some specification has been set aside, is the claim which Satan now puts forward.

7. By substituting human law for God's law, Satan will seek to control the world. This work is foretold in prophecy.

8. Men will surely set up their laws to counterwork the laws of God. They will seek to compel the consciences of others, and in their zeal to enforce these laws they will oppress their fellow men.

9. There will be but two classes.

10. Then the end will come.

11. God will vindicate His law and deliver His people.

12. Satan and all who have joined him in rebellion will be cut off.

13. The glory of Him who is love will destroy them.

14. At the beginning of the great controversy, the angels did not understand this.

15. But not so when the great controversy shall be ended.

16. Then the extermination of sin will vindicate God's love and establish His honor before a universe of beings who delight to do His will, and in whose heart is His law.

It appears that there are still unsettled questions about the law and the extermination of sin and sinners. Had Jesus destroyed the evil angels at the cross, before these questions are settled, they would not have understood the justice of God. They would have feared Him, and their fear would have turned into rebellion and their eventual destruction.

Regarding the first point, the statement says, "All that man can know about God was revealed in the life and character of His Son." This *is* a "Thus saith the Lord."

At first, you seemed to be disputing that "all" means "all." Now you are wanting to add an "only" to the sentence which is not there. She did not write "Only that which man can know about God was revealed". There's no "only" in the sentence. You are adding that. Simple logic and common sense are enough to see that your added "only" doesn't fit.

Regarding the GC being settled, she wrote that the angels had things to learn, not that there was anything unsettled in their mind. The GC was about whether or not Satan's accusations had any merit. The holy angels have no doubt about that. Satan's deceptions were laid open. This is made clear in the same chapter you've been quoting from:



Note that the last link of sympathy was broken. There was no more doubt regarding who was telling the truth, and thus the GC was settled. The only party for whom it is unsettled, and the only reason that time goes on, is because of man.

However, though the last link of sympathy has been broken, and the universe has been eternally secured by the sacrifice of Christ, this does not mean there are not things the angels can learn.

TE: Regarding the first point, the statement says, "All that man can know about God was revealed in the life and character of His Son." This *is* a "Thus saith the Lord."

MM: Tom, do you have a reference this quote? I can't find it in my database. Thank you.

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TE: Note that the last link of sympathy was broken. There was no more doubt regarding who was telling the truth, and thus the GC was settled. The only party for whom it is unsettled, and the only reason that time goes on, is because of man.

MM: That's not what it means to me. Yes, the last link of sympathy was severed; but this doesn't also mean that all of the accusations he raised were settled in their minds. According to DA 761-763 they still have questions about the law and the extermination of sinners with their sins in the lake of fire.

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The following quote does not teach that these things were settled or accomplished at the cross. It is written in the future tense. Surely you agree our redemption was not completed at the cross.

"Christ alone can do this. His gospel in the hearts and hands of His followers is the power [1] which is to accomplish this great work. "O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God!" By Himself becoming subject to Satan's misrepresentations, Christ made it possible for the work of redemption [2] to be accomplished. [3] Thus was Satan to show himself to be the cause of disloyalty in God's universe. [4] Thus was to be forever settled the great controversy between Christ and Satan. {6T 238.1}

The holy angels were ready and willing for the GC to end long before the death of Christ on the cross. On several occasions they were ready and willing to destroy the evil angels along with evil humans. At the cross, though, they were even more ready and willing to do it. But, Father knows best. They will not be truly ready for the extermination of sinners with their sins in the lake of fire until after the 144,000 make their final stand.