|
Forums118
Topics9,232
Posts196,219
Members1,326
| |
Most Online5,850
Feb 29th, 2020
|
|
|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
Here is a link to show exactly where the Space Station is over earth right now: Click Here
|
|
|
8 registered members (Karen Y, Daryl, dedication, daylily, TheophilusOne, 3 invisible),
2,481
guests, and 13
spiders. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: Tom]
#98102
04/11/08 03:42 PM
04/11/08 03:42 PM
|
SDA
Charter Member
Active Member 2019
20000+ Member
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 22,256
Southwest USA
|
|
"They know everything that can be known about God, because God has shown it all to them."
Tom, how did God show them "everything" that can be known about God? I'm referring to indigenous tribes who have never heard of Jesus or the Bible.
Please cite a reference where an indigenous tribe studied nature and discovered "everything that can be known about God." In particular, the truth about God (not god}, the truth about idolatry, the truth about taking God's name in vain, and the truth about keeping the seventh-day holy from sunset to sunset.
Also, please cite a reference where a person, who has never of heard of the Bible or Jesus, knows instinctively when he is breaking one of the first four commandments, that portrays him feeling bad or guilty because he broke, in particular, the fourth commandment.
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: Mountain Man]
#98117
04/11/08 10:48 PM
04/11/08 10:48 PM
|
OP
Active Member 2012
14500+ Member
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,795
Lawrence, Kansas
|
|
MM, this is Scripture. If you don't believe Scripture, what good would citing some study involving indigenous tribes do?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: Tom]
#98180
04/14/08 04:19 PM
04/14/08 04:19 PM
|
SDA
Charter Member
Active Member 2019
20000+ Member
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 22,256
Southwest USA
|
|
TE: They know everything that can be known about God, because God has shown it all to them.
MM: If your theory is Scriptural, then surely you can point to people who have experienced it. How does God show indigenous tribes, who have never heard of Jesus or the Bible, "everything" that can be known about God?
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: Mountain Man]
#98204
04/14/08 10:05 PM
04/14/08 10:05 PM
|
OP
Active Member 2012
14500+ Member
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,795
Lawrence, Kansas
|
|
TE: They know everything that can be known about God, because God has shown it all to them.
MM: If your theory is Scriptural, then surely you can point to people who have experienced it. How does God show indigenous tribes, who have never heard of Jesus or the Bible, "everything" that can be known about God? "If" it is Scriptural? How can it not be Scriptural? I just quoted Scripture: 19They know everything that can be known about God, because God has shown it all to them. 20God's eternal power and character cannot be seen. But from the beginning of creation, God has shown what these are like by all he has made. That's why those people don't have any excuse. 21They know about God, but they don't honor him or even thank him. (Romans 1:19,20) I'm not interpreting anything here. I'm just repeating the text. Once again, if you don't believe Scripture, how could I possibly prove it to you by some study of indigenous tribes? How do you know God created the universe? Can you point me to some study which proves this? How do you know when a person dies that there is a resurrection? Is there a study to prove this? How do I know that God has manifest Himself to everyone? Because He says so in His word. Why would I take the results of some study over this?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: Tom]
#98214
04/15/08 05:53 AM
04/15/08 05:53 AM
|
Active Member 2011
3500+ Member
|
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 3,965
Sweden
|
|
"If" it is Scriptural? How can it not be Scriptural? I just quoted Scripture:
It could fail to be scriptual despite quotes from scripture if said quotes are extensively and carefully chosen by the proof-texting method.
Galatians 2
21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: vastergotland]
#98217
04/15/08 12:36 PM
04/15/08 12:36 PM
|
OP
Active Member 2012
14500+ Member
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,795
Lawrence, Kansas
|
|
That's true. However, the quotes look to be in the context of the first couple of chapters of Romans where Paul is making the case that all are without excuse. Here Paul argues that even those who have not been exposed to Scripture are without excuse.
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: Tom]
#98227
04/15/08 05:04 PM
04/15/08 05:04 PM
|
SDA
Charter Member
Active Member 2019
20000+ Member
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 22,256
Southwest USA
|
|
TE: They know everything that can be known about God, because God has shown it all to them.
MM: If your theory is Scriptural, then surely you can point to people who have experienced it. How does God show indigenous tribes, who have never heard of Jesus or the Bible, "everything" that can be known about God? "If" it is Scriptural? How can it not be Scriptural? I just quoted Scripture: 19They know everything that can be known about God, because God has shown it all to them. 20God's eternal power and character cannot be seen. But from the beginning of creation, God has shown what these are like by all he has made. That's why those people don't have any excuse. 21They know about God, but they don't honor him or even thank him. (Romans 1:19,20) I'm not interpreting anything here. I'm just repeating the text. Once again, if you don't believe Scripture, how could I possibly prove it to you by some study of indigenous tribes? How do you know God created the universe? Can you point me to some study which proves this? How do you know when a person dies that there is a resurrection? Is there a study to prove this? How do I know that God has manifest Himself to everyone? Because He says so in His word. Why would I take the results of some study over this? Tom, the passage you posted does not reflect what you believe. It does not say indigenous tribes, who have never heard of the Bible or Jesus, learned everything there is to know about God, as if it includes learning about Jesus and the Sabbath. You overstate what Paul wrote.
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: Mountain Man]
#98242
04/15/08 06:49 PM
04/15/08 06:49 PM
|
OP
Active Member 2012
14500+ Member
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,795
Lawrence, Kansas
|
|
Tom, the passage you posted does not reflect what you believe. It does not say indigenous tribes, who have never heard of the Bible or Jesus, learned everything there is to know about God, as if it includes learning about Jesus and the Sabbath. You overstate what Paul wrote. MM, I just repeated what Paul wrote. I said nothing more. I said nothing about indigenous tribes or the Sabbath. I just quoted Scripture. Can you quote something directly that I wrote which you think is overstating what Paul wrote?
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: Tom]
#98297
04/17/08 05:12 PM
04/17/08 05:12 PM
|
SDA
Charter Member
Active Member 2019
20000+ Member
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 22,256
Southwest USA
|
|
Tom, here's what you wrote - "They know everything that can be known about God, because God has shown it all to them." What do you mean by "everything"?
|
|
|
Re: Does polygame violate the 7th commandment?
[Re: Mountain Man]
#98298
04/17/08 05:58 PM
04/17/08 05:58 PM
|
OP
Active Member 2012
14500+ Member
|
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,795
Lawrence, Kansas
|
|
I didn't write that. Paul wrote that. I quoted Paul. 18From heaven God shows how angry he is with all the wicked and evil things that sinful people do to crush the truth. 19They know everything that can be known about God, because God has shown it all to them. 20God's eternal power and character cannot be seen. But from the beginning of creation, God has shown what these are like by all he has made. That's why those people don't have any excuse. 21They know about God, but they don't honor him or even thank him. (Romans 1 18:21 CEV)
Those who wait for the Bridegroom's coming are to say to the people, "Behold your God." The last rays of merciful light, the last message of mercy to be given to the world, is a revelation of His character of love.
|
|
|
|
|
Here is the link to this week's Sabbath School Lesson Study and Discussion Material: Click Here
|
|
|
