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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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03/10/08 02:59 AM
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Looking at it from the angle of true Sabbath rest as resting in God's love and accomplishments, it seems that even the unfallen worlds would have a Sabbath.
By God's grace, Arnold
There is no excuse for any one in taking the position that there is no more truth to be revealed, and that all our expositions of Scripture are without an error. The fact that certain doctrines have been held as truth for many years by our people, is not a proof that our ideas are infallible. Age will not make error into truth, and truth can afford to be fair. No true doctrine will lose anything by close investigation. RH 12/20/1892
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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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03/10/08 10:22 AM
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Regarding the test on other planets: The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes; they were noble, majestic, and lovely. They bore the express image of Jesus, and their countenances beamed with holy joy, expressive of the freedom and happiness of the place. I asked one of them why they were so much more lovely than those on the earth. The reply was, "We have lived in strict obedience to the commandments of God, and have not fallen by disobedience, like those on the earth." Then I saw two trees, one looked much like the tree of life in the city. The fruit of both looked beautiful, but of one they could not eat. They had power to eat of both, but were forbidden to eat of one. Then my attending angel said to me, "None in this place have tasted of the forbidden tree; but if they should eat, they would fall." {EW 39.3} It's hard for me to imagine God creating the Sabbath to be a test of loyalty during the final crisis. It is not and never was a test of loyalty, just like a newly engaged beloved doesnt have to ask that you let go of your old flings or lovers. You do it out of love.....
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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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03/10/08 03:15 PM
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Richard, are you referring to the tree or the Sabbath? Actually, I guess it doesn't matter, in the beginning the tree was a test of loyalty and in the end the Sabbath will be a test of loyalty. The point I intended to make above regarding the Sabbath is that I doubt Jesus created it in order to be a test at the end of time.
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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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Yes, I was refering to the tree, but thats OK....I feel that in the end of time, the Sabbath will not be so much a test, but more of a outgrowth of understanding, as the truth is fully unveiled for all to see (and choose)...
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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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Do the following insights explain what you mean?
The Sabbath will be the great test of loyalty, for it is the point of truth especially controverted. When the final test shall be brought to bear upon men, then the line of distinction will be drawn between those who serve God and those who serve Him not. While the observance of the false sabbath in compliance with the law of the state, contrary to the fourth commandment, will be an avowal of allegiance to a power that is in opposition to God, the keeping of the true Sabbath, in obedience to God's law, is an evidence of loyalty to the Creator. While one class, by accepting the sign of submission to earthly powers, receive the mark of the beast, the other choosing the token of allegiance to divine authority, receive the seal of God. {GC 605.2}
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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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03/15/08 08:54 AM
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The Sabbath will be a banner that is visible to all, and allows those who truly love Christ and want to follow what He asks to rally to His banner. Somehow when Satan tries to come to deceive at the end, he will focus the people on chosing between his day of worship and the Sabbath that Christ is Lord of from Creation. It will be a clear choice as Satan presents himself as a false christ with all the people being told they must worship him and his day of face the consequences, and then Christ will come....
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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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05/15/08 01:56 PM
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why do people have an issue with Gods sabbath law or any other law he has given.why do we chastise our children,because we love them,and thats what God does.if we did not rest say for instance after doing twelve hour stints day after day,we would end up ill.so rest is there,God says resy on my day and love me give me yourself with all of the family and i will give you everything you requir.and i know he does this because i went away from God and ended up a mess.then i found God and gave myself to him,and i must say i feel the love in myself that he has gave me.thank the Lord.every other law we seem to obey but many have a issue with the seventh day.they go to church i think just for show,and rush the sabbath hours out.they look at the clock and they then do their normal thing,so in reality they are not worshipping in a true manner,and of course they are expecting eternal life.sabbath worship is an holy way of living giving God true obedience is what we look for off our children and thats what we are Gods children.love and obey for theres no other way,than to be happy in Jesus is to love and obey.brian
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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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05/15/08 02:41 PM
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Brian, you're right. The joy of Jesus involves joyful obedience, joyfully imitating His example in living in harmony with the will of God. Nothing is more peaceful, more joyful. Living for Jesus is the abundant life. Everyday is a day of rest; whereas, the Sabbath is particularly blessed. Not having to do unnecessary work, unnecessary buying and selling, is a positive advantage, a positive plus, especially for people who work hard in less than ideal environments, with less ideal people.
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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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05/15/08 05:29 PM
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It is as you say, until someone who works as a professional driver, lets say a taxi, and therefore does not use a car on the Sabbath decides that since not driving a car is Sabbath rest for him it must also be Sabbath rest for everyone else. Thus he starts a campain to get everyone in his congregation to use other means of transportation during the Sabbath or if they will not or can not do that, then non the less be crushed by guilt for doing that which is forbiden on the Sabbath day.
Galatians 2 21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
It is so hazardous to take here a little and there a little. If you put the right little's together you can make the bible teach anything you wish. //Graham Maxwell
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Re: What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
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05/15/08 05:48 PM
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Interesting point, Thomas.
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